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Friday, February 27, 2009

The Price We Don't Pay

NewspaperThe Internet has brought severe challenges for journalism, and especially for science journalism. The vast majority of private websites are financed through advertisements, which is impossible to miss. Exceptions to this are publicly funded governmental or educational institutions, and rare cases that are financed through donations like Wikipedia. Advertisements are more profitable the more visitors a website has, which thus puts a major incentive on popularity. Though this incentive has always been present, it is today much more pronounced than with a clientele of subscribers, and the breathlessness of infotainment with an emphasis on novelty contributes its part. The trend of print newspapers has thus been to cut back on the length of reports, to make them increasingly simplistic, and to provide additional web content in an effort to adapt to the changing demands of the customers.

This however has not sufficed to keep newspapers financially healthy. Reporting on results of a recent survey among newspaper executives, researchers on the Project for Excellence in Journalism summarize that the newspaper of today “has fewer pages than three years ago, the paper stock is thinner, and the stories are shorter. There is less foreign and national news, less space devoted to science, the arts, features and a range of specialized subjects”. Well over half (59%) of the 259 newspapers participating in the survey have reduced full-time newsroom staff over the past three years, mainly because of financial pressures. Roughly the same number (61%) also reported a decrease in their space available for stories. 46% of survey respondents said that the resources devoted to cover international affairs dropped within the last three years, 41% report a drop for national politics, and 24% for science reporting.

While this development is of general concern, it is particularly so for scientific reporting, where attention to detail, background knowledge, and accuracy are essential. Quality of information is relevant for citizens to make decisions, and it should thus be in our prime interest. The problem underlying this erosion of newspapers substance (both in budget and content) is with the link between personal interests and the resulting overall trend, a classical case of public choice. We have gotten used to information being provided for free, and to all the advantages and amenities connected to it. We consider it a public service. If this information was provided for the actual coast it causes, likely many people would not pay this price, thus eroding the basis of our democracies. Free information is desirable to keep our societies functioning well. The problem is, its provision is done by people who need to eat and sleep. Consequentially, they should be financed as providers of public service, either by governmental subsidies, or as tax-free non-profit organizations.

This is a discussion which is overdue, I was thus glad to see Swensen and Schmidt recently picked up the question of alternative financing models in their recent NYT article News You Can Endow.

Related: Do we need science journalists?, When capitalism fails and Fact or fiction.

Thursday, February 26, 2009

What does the American Dream mean to you?

I am presently reading Jeremy Rifkin's book “The European Dream,” which is quite an interesting comparison between the United States of America and the “United States of Europe,” as he calls it. It is as much about the American Dream as the dreamers and their European ancestors. The book is however full of sweeping generalizations. Though I can find some truth in most of what he writes, I find it hard to swallow statements like
“Americans covet exclusive space. Each person strives to be self-contained and autonomous. That's why we put a premium on privacy. Europeans seek inclusive space - being part of extended communities, including family, kin, ethnic and class affiliation. Privacy is less important than engagement.”

Which doesn't make much sense if I consider Microsoft ran into problems with European privacy rights where Americans didn't care. This morning a complete stranger told me her friend Gerald just had a triple bypass some days before his 70th birthday. Not that I asked. Maybe it's just me, but these things happen to me constantly on this side of the Atlantic. I yet have to find a German who'd tell a random seat neighbor on a plane about her daughter's affair with the pharmacist. So much about the Americans' desire for privacy.

Another example:
“We Americans [...] if we can afford it, we'd much prefer to place our home at the very top of a hill, and at a distance from our nearest neighbors, afford us a daily reminder of our autonomy.”

That must be why millions of Americans have gathered in mega-cities like LA, Chicago and New York.

That being said, I am not sure how much to trust Rifkin's elaborations on the American Dream either. Thus, I though I'll pass on the question: what does the American Dream mean to you?

Wednesday, February 25, 2009

Did you know... (VII)

... the origin of the word “travel”?

It goes back to the Old French word travail “suffering or painful effort, trouble” (12c.), from travailler “to toil, labor,” originally “to trouble, torture,” from Vulgar Latin tripaliare “to torture,” from tripalium (in Literary Latin trepalium) “instrument of torture.”

Source: The Online Etymology Dictionary

Yep.

Next time you fly from the East- to the Westcoast, suffering from cheap airline coffee and dull movies, try to imagine you'd have taken the trip 200 years ago...


See also: Did you know...

Tuesday, February 24, 2009

Three Years of Backreaction

A while ago, Bee wrote a post about Risky Black Holes.

This seems to be a timeless topic – it could have been written today. It was three years ago, and it started this blog.

Happy Birthday, Backreaction!


 


Monday, February 23, 2009

Book Review: Naomi Klein "The Shock Doctrine"

The Shock Doctrine - The Rise of Disaster Capitalism
By Naomi Klein
Metropolitan Books (September 18, 2007)


In late 2007, I read an article in Harper's Magazine, titled “Disaster Capitalism” which, well written, vividly argued, left an impression. I Googled for the author, Naomi Klein, and was lead to her website announcing the new book, on which the Harper's article had offered a glimpse. I watched a truly appalling promotional video, and reminded myself that the author probably wasn't responsible for the advertisements before ordering the book.

Summary

In “The Shock Doctrine” Naomi Klein puts forward the thesis that worldwide and over decades shocks have been used to push through unpopular free market decisions, mostly privatization and deregulation, generally against the will of the people but always to the advantage of large corporations, the wealthy upper class, and corrupt governments. Shocks might be natural disasters, wars, terrorist attacks, or economic turmoils. The book is a collection of well researched and documented examples, from Bolivia over Chile, Poland, Iraq, China, the UK, Russia, again Iraq, Israel, South Africa, Sri Lanka, the Maldives to New Orleans.

The book begins with drawing parallels to shock therapy in the 50s and 60s, the attempt to reset the human mind by whatever means into an infantile state, a “clean slate” on which there could be imprinted a new beginning. Klein reports how these insights were later used for purposes of torture all over the world.

Throughout the book, Klein traces the actions of Milton Friedman, and his “Chicago Boys” who provided the ideological and allegedly scientific backup for operations in the course of which hundreds of thousands of people were murdered, died, or committed suicide. (Jeffrey Sachs makes an appearance in several instances.) If her claim of a shocked nation being a desirable state to perform unpopular free market reforms feels far fetched to you as it did to me, this is actually quite well documented in many instances, and one doesn't have to look very far to find this option was considered quite appropriate as means for what some considered progress.

Over the decades, Naomi argues, the ideology spread, packed into the wrapper that a free market maximizes social welfare, filled with a creamy myth of tricke-down. Extreme measures were more easily put into place in tyrannies, but found their way into democratic systems as well, through cloak and dagger operations, through exerting economic pressure, or just by corruption, all in the midst of states of confusion and shock:

“And that is how the crusade that Friedman began managed to survive the dreaded transition to democracy - not by its proponents persuading electorates of the wisdom of their world view, but by moving deftly from crisis to crisis, expertly exploiting the desperation of economic emergencies to push through policies that would tie the hands of fragile new democracies. Once the tactic was perfected, opportunities just seemed to multiply.”

Particularly shocking for me has been to learn about the role of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) in these doings. In many cases, support has been tied to requests for privatization and deregulation, clearly interferences with nations' autonomy and often with their political landscape.

Naomi Klein traces traces the historical route to our present days, when a large and increasing sector of our global economy has specialized in disaster help and security, up to the point that devastating news actually score as good news on the stock market. Her account of which private companies made billions after billions with the war in Iraq and Hurricane Katrina, all with taxpayers' money (resp. by increasing the government's debt) is sobering, especially in the face of how incompetent these tasks were performed (or paid for but not performed at all).

She finishes the book with examples of where shock has worn off, especially in South America were social democracy has put a halt to selling off countries and destroying communities, and established a new autonomy of these nations independent on the IMF. The main message I think she wants to get across is to be prepared for when a shock hits, for we can most easily be exploited when taken by surprise.

Comments

The book is an interesting read and an impressive collection of facts, quotations, and data. I can't help however to find Klein's account very single sided. As meticulously as she has collected evidence in favour of her thesis, I did not get the impression she has as carefully looked for evidence against her thesis. I feel like her narrative is compelling in its simplicity and has certainly some truth to it, but lacks many qualifiers.

Most importantly, her arguments are directly and by name targeted at recommendations out of the pocketbook of neoclassical economics. But what she actually is criticising is not a free market or the drawbacks of particular regulations, but corporatism and corruption (not to mention torture). In fact, in the introduction she writes:
“A more accurate term for a system that erases the boundaries between Big Government and Big Business is not liberal, conservative or capitalist but corporatist. Its main characteristics are huge transfers of public wealth to private hands, often accompanied by exploding debt, an ever widening chasm between the dazzling rich and the disposable poor, and an aggressive nationalism that justifies bottomless spending on security. For those inside the bubble of extreme wealth created by such an arrangement, there can be no more profitable way to organize a society.”

She then however fails to explain why privatization and deregulation must necessarily be tied to these circumstances she is bemoaning, and thus why her constant stabbing at Friedman and the Chicago School. Instead of providing an argument on why this connection would be, she just offers example after example. I don't find this very insightful, as I would have wanted to know what could have been done better and why.

The book was recently turned into a documentary by directors Michael Winterbottom and Matt Whitecross, who make an effort pointing out it is not a conspiracy theory. Indeed, it is not. There is no sense in which Klein raises the impression these events were deliberately planned. Instead, the picture she paints is one in which ideological convictions have gone awry and people in power neglected to pay attention to reality - or just did not live up to their expectations. As she writes repeatedly, there is no way in which the human mind or a country can be cleaned of its history and provide the perfect platform to build on it from scratch a flawless utopia. This strive for perfection is an illusion, and one in whose pursuit comes suffering. To add my own perspective on that, it is less a conspiracy and more a system failure. Most importantly, the system fails to correct its own problems since those who hold the power have no incentives to do so.

Besides this, the book is nicely written and reads very well. It is however very repetitive, and fuzzy in articulating the main claims and conclusions. As far as I am concerned, I would have been fine with the first 100 pages and then a collection of facts and data. I really don't need to be told the story of the evil Friedmanians fifty times. And for my taste, she gives way too much room to the history of shock therapy treatment and its applications for torture. I don't even doubt that these concepts were picked up by economists. Such cross-fertilization between different fields is interesting (the concept of a 'landscape' being picked up by physicists is a similar example), but I didn't want to buy a book on torture or electroshock treatments and would have appreciated less details on that matter.

All together, if this was an amazon review, I'd give three points.


Saturday, February 21, 2009

International Mother Language Day - February 21

Today is the "International Mother Language Day", which has been proclaimed by the General Conference of UNESCO ... to promote linguistic and cultural diversity and multilingualism. You may be aware of the issue from our recent post What is the world coming to?.

German radio added drama this morning by reporting that some German dialects such as Kölsch, Bairisch (Bavarian), and Letzeburgisch are in danger of extinction - a bit of an exaggeration, as you can check out on the "UNESCO Interactive Atlas of the World's Languages in Danger" which lists eg Bavarian as merely "unsafe" (and let me tell you, if you don't know Bavarian, it is definitely unsafe to use it).

Anyway, our blog works quite well because we and you, dear readers and commenters, can communicate without major accidents in one common language, English (or so we hope). But this is not our native tongue, and maybe it isn't yours either.

Looking at the visitors statistics (see below) of Backreaction, it seems that more than 75% of all readers come from English-speaking countries - but this actually just reflects the "language settings" of the visiting web browsers. It doesn't say necessarily much about the mother language of the real people using these browsers (Bee eg has her settings on US-English).




So, to celebrate International Mother Language Day and to learn more about the background and diversity of our readers, we invite you to leave in the comments a few greetings in your actual mother tongue - and maybe you can add what language it actually is :-)
Willkommen bei "Backreaction" am Internationalen Tag der Muttersprache! Das ist heute die Gelegenheit, hier ein paar freundliche Worte in Eurer Muttersprache zu hinterlassen. Wir freuen uns auf Eure Kommentare!

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Thursday, February 19, 2009

Evidence for the Black Hole Event Horizon

Yesterday we had a very nice colloquium by Ramesh Narayan from Harvard

    Evidence for the Black Hole Event Horizon

    Abstract: Astronomers have discovered many candidate black holes in the universe and have studied their properties in ever-increasing detail. Over the last decade, a few groups have developed observational tests for the presence of event horizons in candidate black holes. The talk will discuss one of these tests, which indicates that the supermassive black hole at the center of our Galaxy must have a horizon.

You can find the recording at PIRSA: 09020024.

Black hole formation is a prediction of General Relativity (GR). We know that stars that have masses more than a few times the solar mass can not, once their nuclear power is burned out, stabilize at a finite radius and the gravitational pressure of their own mass will cause them to completely collapse. In this process, the density of the object increases, and the gravitational force on the surface gets stronger. If the gravitational force on the surface gets so strong not even light can escape, we call this surface an event horizon. It is the characteristic feature of black holes. Classically, nothing can ever leave the region behind the event horizon.

Since the early 90s, evidence has mounted for astrophysical black holes. These come in two rough categories: solar size black holes, with masses of a few times the mass of our sun that form directly from collapse of stars, and the so-called supermassive black holes, with masses about a million to a billion times the solar mass, that form through accretion in densely populated areas, mostly in the center of galaxies.

The cheap way to label an object a black hole is to measure its mass (eg from the motions of nearby stars) and its radius (eg by determining the source area of its emission). For a black hole, we know the relation between both, R = 2 GM, where G is the gravitational constant, R is the radius, and M is the mass. The radius of a black hole of about solar mass would be roughly 3 km, and that of a supermassive black hole is then consequently some million to billion kms. If one has data that allows to estimate mass and radius, if there is too much mass in an observed region of spacetime, one can conclude it has to be a black hole. (Keep in mind this is astrophysics, so observables typically have large errorbars and it takes some effort to pin down conclusions.)

This is however somewhat unsatisfactory. What one would really like to know is whether the object does have an event horizon, which is the defining feature of a black hole. The question is then, what observables can help us to determine whether we are dealing with a compact object that has a surface, or with an object that has an event horizon?

First let me emphasize that compact objects of the masses we are concerned with here that have a radius close by but not quite the radius of a black hole are not possible in GR. These objects can't be stabilized. But if one modifies GR, one can get away with this. People have looked into such modifications but these are not very convincing options. The reason is simple: To avoid collapse, one needs a mechanism to stabilize matter at a density that allows the matter to just not form a black hole. That is, one needs a deviation from the standard theory at densities of about M/R3, and inserting the black hole radius this goes as ~ 1/M2. This means, the more massive the black hole is, the smaller is the density at which you need deviations from the standard theory.

And this density can be arbitrarily small. It can be as small as densities we deal with every day. Take a supermassive black hole with 109 times the mass of the sun, which has a radius of about 109km. This gives a density of about 1039kg per 1027km3, or 1 kg per dm3, which is about the density of water. Not exactly a very extreme condition, and one that we have quite some experience with. From Einstein's field equations we further know the density scales like the background curvature. This means if you want to generally avoid the formation of black holes, you need modifications of GR in the arbitrarily small curvature regime. In this regime, the theory is extremely well tested, and we have not seen any deviations whatsoever.

But still, one would like to have observational evidence for the presence of the horizon (after all, it could be a naked singularity, no?). The key to this is to compare the emissions of an object that does have a surface with that of an object that does not have a surface. Astrophysical black holes accrete matter, and that matter heats up, which leads to emissions. When the accreted matter hits the surface this also leads to emissions, that can - in the case of astrophysical black holes - be violent nuclear explosions. An object with an event horizon on the other hand will not have contributions to the emitted radiation from the surface. Both will thus differ in their luminosity, which is observable.

In his talk, Narayan summarized the observations of the luminosity of both solar mass black holes in our galaxy, and for Sgr A*, the supermassive black hole in the center of our galaxy. In both cases, the observed emission is much smaller than would be expected if the object had a surface, and thus clear evidence for the presence of an event horizon.

Related: Coincidentally, Moshe just today wrote a nice post on Frozen Stars.

Wednesday, February 18, 2009

This and That

Some random things I came across recently and thought you'd enjoy:

Sunday, February 15, 2009

Do we need Science Journalists?

Science bloggers and their sometimes troublesome relation to science journalists is a topic that I have come across many times since I started writing this blog. And in many instances I have heard statements of the sort that blogging will render journalism obsolete. Bora's recent post The Shock Value of Science Blogs is a nice example. He writes
“The job of translating Scientese into English (or whatever is the local language) has traditionally been done by professional science journalists. Unfortunately, most science journalists (hats off to the rare and excellent exceptions) are absolutely awful about it. They have learned the journalistic tools, but have no background in science. They think they are educated, but they only really know how to use the language to appear they are educated. Fortunately for everyone, the Web is allowing scientists to speak directly to the public, bypassing, marginalizing and pushing into extinction the entire class of science "journalists" because, after all, most scientists are excellent communicators. And those who are, more and more are starting to use blogs as a platform for such communication.

[I]n science journalism, there exist out there people with real expertise - the scientists themselves - who now have the tools and means to bypass you and make you obsolete because you cannot add any value any more.”

He than bashes around a bit on George Johnson and John Horgan, and ends with saying
“Perhaps if we remove those middle-men and have scientists and the public start talking to each other directly, then we will have the two groups start talking to each other openly, honestly and in an informal language that is non-threatening (and understood as such) by all. The two sides can engage and learn from each other. The people who write ignorant, over-hyping articles, the kinds we bloggers love to debunk (by being able to compare to the actual papers because we have the background) are just making the entire business of science communication muddled and wrong. Please step aside.”
Well, there is two things I have to say about that.

For one, as far as I am concerned most scientists are not particularly good writers (I include myself in that) and since I appreciate a piece of good writing I sincerely hope professional journalism will prevail. Having acquired the necessary skills and appropriate education certainly helps to this matters. I don't know what Bora's standards are, but I find the vast majority of science blogs not particularly well written (YOU obviously belong to the minority of brilliant writers).

Second, reporting by scientists about their own research is always bound to be biased, and an important task of journalists is to provide an objective outside view. This might not always work out to the scientists' favour. John Horgan eg is certainly known for his cynical view on some branches of science, and it is of little surprise some scientists are put off by this. But such criticism fulfils an important function in disconnecting topics from people who are their direct originators, much like editorials in newspapers are not generally written by politicians.

I am not saying that science journalism presently is fulfilling this task very well (see eg earlier post Fact or Fiction?, and When Capitalism Fails for why this is the case), but it has its place and I think we need it. Science blogs can certainly contribute to communicating science, by providing the details that journalists don't cover - details about the research or also the life as researcher. But leaving science journalism completely over to bloggers is not a good idea.

Friday, February 13, 2009

Assumptions and Limitations

I recently came across this astonishing quotation, also referred to as “the F-twist”:

“Truly important and significant hypotheses will be found to have “assumptions” that are wildly inaccurate descriptive representations of reality, and, in general, the more significant the theory, the more unrealistic the assumptions (in this sense). The reason is simple. A hypothesis is important if it “explains” much by little, that is, if it abstracts the common and critical elements from the mass of complex and detailed circumstances surrounding the phenomena to be explained and permits valid predictions on the basis of them alone. To be important, therefore, a hypothesis must be descriptively false in its assumptions; it takes account of, and accounts for, none of the many other attendant circumstances, since its very success shows them to be irrelevant for the phenomena to be explained.”


I imagine I'd send this as reply to a referee report which criticizes my work on the grounds that I might have found a great dark matter candidate, but not only have I assumed unbroken supersymmetry, my model also has four neutrino generations and, oh, only 2 spatial dimensions. Assumptions that indeed qualify as unrealistic and wildly inaccurate. For not to say, bluntly wrong.

But maybe I am being unfair.

Let me guess what Friedman might have wanted to say. The more parsimonious a model, the easier it is to extract relevant features and get an understanding of its behaviour. That does not mean however, it makes for a better model the fewer and more unrealistic assumptions you have. Certainly, the standard model of particle physics would be nicer if all fermions were massless and chiral symmetry was unbroken. Unfortunately, it doesn't describe Nature then. That's why we distinguish between models of the real world, and 'toy models' meant as testing ground to increase our understanding of the general features (see earlier post on Models and Theories).

But maybe also this is unfair.

He might have meant to say that a simplifying assumption does not have to be shown appropriate for a certain range of validity, the range in which predictions derived from the assumption then can be made. Instead, one can just see whether the model works and such justify the assumption a posteriori. Unfortunately, that too is nonsense. If you don't specify the range of validity of your assumptions (typically by showing that the effect of deviations from the assumptions is negligible for the result) your model is not falsifiable and thus not scientific. If you test it and the outcome does not match your predictions, you can just go and say, well, the assumptions were not fulfilled.

Thus, I am afraid unless you want to redefine what you mean with a scientific theory, this is not a good starting point. One wonders why he felt the need to put “explain” in quotation marks.

See also: Shut up and calculate

Thursday, February 12, 2009

My Computer has Insomnia

I don't sleep well at night. One gets used to it. Over the years I have developed a skill in writing imaginary equations on the ceiling. But last night I noticed I'm not the only one in my apartment who is up at night.

My computer presently sleeps on the couch (also known as 'the ouch' to our long-term readers). That's because I figured if I work in the living room during the winter I have one room less to heat. And electric heating at an outside temperature below -20 °C makes quite an impact on the bill, believe me. I recently acquired a new computer, a Lenovo Thinkpad, after my Dell had developed more and more bugs and one was eventually fatal (don't buy Dell).

I wake up around three in the morning and lie around for a while. “Beep!” I hear from the living room. Funny, I think, is this my computer? After a while I hear “Dschingeling!” Indeed, I think, it must be having some kind of dream. And after some more minutes there comes a “Plong!” which I recognize as an error message. My poor computer, has a nightmare.

So I get up and find my computer is wide awake. It seems it decided, after seven hours or so, to notify me that a program didn't start properly and if I want to send an error report to Microsoft, or maybe restart the program? I hit Ctrl Alt Delete, kill all zombie processes, and put it back to sleep. Not without first switching off the wireless feature. At least so I know it won't talk to other computers if it has a bad dream.

Tuesday, February 10, 2009

Science and Democracy IV

Dennis Overbye recently had a nice opinion piece in the NYT, titled “Elevating Science, Elevating Democracy.” Since we have discussed the topic of Science and Democracy repeatedly on this blog (Part I, Part II, Part III) I thought it is worthwhile to comment on this piece (see also Daniel's comment).

Before Overbye spirals off into an elaboration on China's problems, he lays out values that are essential both for science and democracy:
“Those values, among others, are honesty, doubt, respect for evidence, openness, accountability and tolerance and indeed hunger for opposing points of view.”

I agree with him on that, but this is about were similarities end. In its function, democracy serves an entirely different purpose than science, and it uses a different mechanism to reach this aim.

Democracy, as other forms of government, is a way to take people's opinions and come to a common conclusion about what to do, which eventually reflects in the organization of people's lives. In a monarchy, this process is pretty simple: neglect everybody's opinion except that of the king. In a grassroots democracy you might sum everything up and take the majority opinion. In a representative democracy the process is quite involved. It gets even more complicated due to the constraint that legislation should be self-consistent.

The aim of science on the other hand is not to come to a common conclusion about people's opinions by whatever mechanism. The aim is to come to a common conclusion about Nature. The decisions in the end are not made by scientists, but by the evidence we have gathered, whether we like that or not. In this process, opinions hopefully come to largely agree on some insights that then enter the established body of knowledge. Ideally, the evidence becomes so clear that virtually nobody in his right might holds differing opinions.

But if you want to know what the scientific opinion is on a matter that has not yet been settled, you are not going to get a reply in unison. (Possibly not even if you ask one single person.) Indeed, if that was the case it would pretty much mean that science is completely disfunct. Instead, you might be offered a selection of different approaches and their pros and cons, the present status of research and the lacking pieces of the puzzle. But there is no formal process by which a decision about open question is made.

There are certainly also in politics questions that are highly discussed during some period, and later become pretty much settled. Think about slavery, women's right to vote, or homosexual's right to marry. (Well, there are so-called 'civilized' countries that are a bit behind on some of these issues.) But these are questions of opinion, opinions that evidently change over time, and as much as you'd want to argue such neither opinion is “wrong” in the scientific sense as that it can be falsified by experiment.

What I had been writing about in my earlier posts (eg here or more recently here) is a different aspect of democracy in science, which does not address the question of how a scientific fact becomes established, but about the process of knowledge discovery itself. As I have argued many times, the present organization of scientific research leads to an inefficient use of human, financial and time resources. Besides inertia, the dominant reason for this state of affairs to prevail is that scientists have virtually no influence of how the system they operate in is organized. That, sad as it is, currupts the status of the above quoted values Overbye ranks so highly.

Overbye has further many nice words for scientists - he goes so far to praises science as “the most successful human activity of all time.” I would have thought the most successful human activity is sex. But maybe I am confusing matters.

Monday, February 09, 2009

Singularities in your Kitchen

When Sabine was preparing her talk about black holes and information loss, we thought about other examples of singularities in physical theories besides the centres of black holes in General Relativity. Somehow, the topic seems to pursue me since then - the current issue of the Scientific American welcomes me with Naked Singularities on the title page, and there is even a newly created Singularity University.

Droplet SingularityPhotograph of a drop of a mixture of glycerol in water. The diameter of the drop is about 20 mm. The photo of the right shows the neck in detail. From "A Cascade of Structure in a Drop Falling from a Faucet" by X. D. Shi, Michael P. Brenner, and Sidney R. Nagel, Science 265 (1994) 219-222, via jstor.)
But I was fascinated most by what I've learned since then about singularities in fluid dynamics - singularities that actually occur in the kitchen, every time a drop of water falls off the tap.

A singularity in the mathematical formulation of a physical theory means that a variable which represents a physical quantity becomes infinite within a finite time. This is, actually, not that rare a phenomenon in non-linear theories. For example, in General Relativity, Einstein's field equations when applied to the gravitational collapse of a very massive star develop infinities in density and curvature at the centre of the system. Another famous example of a non-linear theory is fluid dynamics as described by the Navier-Stokes equations - and this is also a habitat of nice singularities.

For example, when a thin jet of water decays into drops, the breakup is driven by surface tension which tries to reduce the surface area. Such a reduction can be realised by diminishing the radius of the jet. Shrinking, triggered by tiny fluctuations of the surface, becomes more and more localised, end eventually, the jet breaks in finite time. The local radius goes to zero, local flow velocity and surface curvature diverge, and the surface is not smooth anymore. Something very similar happens when a drop forms and pinches off from a tap, as can be seen nicely in the photograph taken from the paper by Shi, Brenner, and Nagel. Breakup occurs just above the spherical droplet, where the radius of the thread of the fluid shrinks to zero and the surface becomes kinky.

Of course, a singularity in the Navier-Stokes equations at the pinch-off of a droplet doesn't mean anything mysterious. But it is a hint that in this situation and at small enough length scales, the equations do not make sense anymore, or at least disregard essential physics. In this case, we know of course that the molecular structure of matter becomes important, replacing the continuum description of matter implied by the Navier-Stokes equations. On the scale of molecules, the concept of a sharp and smooth surface is ambiguous, but already at length scales between 10 and 100 nanometer, van der Waals forces between molecules come into play which are not considered in the continuum formulation.

It's a bit of a stretch to say that some similar effect might remove the singularity at the centre of a black hole, but on a very general level a similar breakdown of the theory that predicts a singularity might occur. In this case it would be General Relativity to be replaced by a theory of quantum gravity that accurately describes the region of strong curvature and high density.



Here are a few paper about singularities in fluid dynamics I found interesting:

If you know of other examples of singularities in fluid dynamics, or in other physical systems, I'll be glad to collect them in the comments!



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Sunday, February 08, 2009

Bizarre Snow Formation

This weekend it's been much warmer than the previous weeks, and most of the snow that had piled up in parking lots and backyards is melting off. Here are some photos from a quite bizarre snowpile I came across this afternoon. The whole thing is 4-5 meters high and makes a constant dripping and crunching sound (click to enlarge).



Thursday, February 05, 2009

What is the world coming to?

I have wondered for a while what the increasing connectivity and mobility will mean for historically local aspects of our lives, such as language and traditions.

In 1996, The Economist wrote “English might now be impregnably established as the world standard language: an intrinsic part of the global communications revolution” [1]. In the same year, an article titled “World Wide Web: Three English Words” in the New York Times let us know that “if you want to take full advantage of the Internet, there is only one way to do it: learn English.” And indeed, in the late 90s, 80% of online information was in English, a large fraction given that only an estimated 8% of the people in the world are native English speakers. However, by 2002, the fraction of English websites had dropped to less than 50%, by 2005 to about 1/3 [2], and in 2008 English had dropped to 29.4%, followed by 18.9% Chinese and 8.5% Spanish. Today the web thus reflects the diversity of languages in the world much more accurately than a decade ago.

The idea that English would overtake the world through its dominance on the Internet therefore was wrong. Nevertheless, small countries whose languages are not very widely used have a too small market share to synchronize movies or translate books into the local language (eg the Netherlands), which means that growing up in such a country people will learn foreign languages very early or miss a big part of what the world is talking about. It isn't particularly representative, but I know several couples with differing native languages who mostly communicate in English, meaning their children do (or will) grow up trilingual. And how I envy them for the ease with which they will be able to travel around the globe.

All in all, despite the fact that people do prefer their mother tongue, different languages pose a difficulty for communication, an obstacle that requires effort to overcome. Wouldn't it just be so much easier if we'd all speak the same language? If I crank forwards the clock for some thousands years - provided that mankind still exists and the level of connectivity remains or increases - I thus think we will settle down into one common language, which will very likely be none of the languages we speak today but some aggregate of present languages. Certainly, there will be interest groups for the preservation of language diversity. If they have spent all their donations setting up their website in 50 different languages, they will realize fighting against a trend towards simplicity is futile.

When it comes to traditions however, the situation is different. May that be rituals, festivities or recipes - though these do compete with each other for our time and taste, I see no strong reason for this diversity to dwindle. You might prefer to stick to people who share your traditions, but this is much more your private business than a language you need to get through your daily live. Again jumping ahead some thousand years, I thus don't think these differences will be erased, for much the same reason that interior design differs from one house to the next. I am undecided about cultural differences, as these fall somewhere between communication and tradition.

What do you think?

I have to admit though, there are advantages to not being a native speaker. If I want to get rid of solicitors, I conveniently forget I speak English.


[1] “The Coming Global Tongue,” The Economist, 21 December 1996.
[2] Numbers from
“Who Controls the Internet?” by Goldstein and Wu

Tuesday, February 03, 2009

Corot-Exo-7b: A Venus in another World

German science blogs today are abuzz with reports about the discovery of an Earth-like planet around a Sun-like star in the constellation of Monoceros, at a distance of about 450 light years.


The newly discovered planet Corot-Exo-7b transiting in front of its star (left, illustration by Klaudia Einhorn), and Venus in front of the disk of the Sun on June 8, 2004 (right, photo by Martin Sloboda). As the sizes of both the stars and the planets are similar, a transit of Corot-Exo-7b would look very similar to the Venus transit.

The planet has a radius which is 1.75 times larger than that of the Earth, and has six to thirteen times the mass of Earth. The star is a main sequence star with roughly the same composition as the Sun, with slightly less mass and a slightly lower temperature. However, distance of the planet to the star is only 1.7 percent of the distance of the Earth from the Sun - hence the revolution period, or "year", of the planet is only 20 hours, and its surface temperature is estimated to be between 1,000 and 1,500 degrees Celsius.

The planet was discovered by the European satellite mission Corot - hence its name, Corot-Exo-7b, meaning the first planet in the 7th planetary system discovered by Corot. Corot uses the transit method to search for new planets: When a planet passes in front of the disk of a star, the light of the star is slightly dimmed.

Here is the light curve of Corot-Exo-7, the star around which the planet is in orbit, showing a drop in brightness of the order of 10-4:



Mass, radius, and orbital parameters of the planet could be extracted from this measurement, and further observations and data analysis using the radial velocity method, the method which had led to the first detection of an exoplanet back in 1995.

So, it's indeed the first Earth-like planet at a Sun-like star - unfortunately, at a temperature close to the melting point of iron.








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Thursday, January 29, 2009

Water is blue ... because water is blue

  Pacific Ocean near Santa Barbara, California


One of the most appealing aspects of the ocean is the colour of the water, ranging from a greyish green to deep blue.

But wait a minute: When I pour water in a glass, it is a clear, transparent liquid. So, what is the cause of the blue colour of the sea? Is it the reflection of the blue sky, perhaps?

The answer is simple, and perhaps surprising: Water is blue, because water is blue.

Blue Oceans,


Actually, water is quite a transparent liquid, but not perfectly transparent. All substances to a certain degree absorb light, and as a consequence, the intensity of a beam of light spreading through matter drops exponentially with distance, as described by the so-called Beer-Lambert law. Pure water appears transparent because it takes a distance of the order of metres to reduce by half the intensity of light passing through it. And, what is most important for the apparent colour of water, the absorption depends on the wavelength of light, hence colour.

The blue curve in the following figure shows the so-called absorption spectrum of pure water (data via Optical Absorption of Water by by Scott Prahl).



The absorption spectrum gives, on the vertical axis, the so-called absorption coefficient as a function of the wavelength of light (as measured outside of the medium). The area marked in yellow corresponds to the range of visible light, reaching from deep blue (at a wavelength of about 380 nanometer) to red (at a wavelength of about 760 nanometer). At the left of the visible spectrum lies the ultraviolet, and at the right, where the absorption curve is climbing and going through several bumps, the infrared.

The absorption coefficient is the inverse of the distance along which the intensity of light drops by a factor of e = 2.718..., and is measured in "inverse centimetre". Hence, an absorption coefficient of a = 10−2 cm−1 means that it takes a distance of d = 1/a = 10² cm = 1 m for the intensity of light to drop by one e-folding.

Now, as we can see, the absorption coefficient is very different at the red end of the visible spectrum than at the blue end. The absorption coefficient is plotted in the figure on a logarithmic scale, and indeed, absorption is about one hundred times stronger at the red end of the visible spectrum than at the minimum of the curve, which at a wavelength just below 500 nanometer still lies in the range of blue.

But this, of course, explains the intrinsic colour of water: when light passes through large amounts of water, its red component is absorbed the strongest, and the blue component the least - and hence, pure water appears to be blue.

... Vibrations,


Actually, the strong increase of the absorption coefficient of water towards the infrared not only causes the blue colour of the ocean. It is also intimately linked to the molecular structure of water.

Molecules of water consist of two hydrogen atoms bonded to one oxygen atom in a kinked shape. Water molecules are not completely rigid, but they can vibrate in different ways. The most important ways of shaking, or "vibrational modes", are a symmetric stretching, called ν1, a symmetric bending, called ν2, and an asymmetric stretching, called ν3:



As with any oscillatory system, vibrations are possible not just for these three modes, but also for higher harmonics - that is, overtones - and for combinations of different modes of oscillation. Indeed, bumps in the absorption curve of water can be identified with a combination of all three modes ("ν1+ ν23"), with a combination of the first overtone of mode 1 and mode 3 ("2ν13"), and with a combination of the second overtone of mode 1 and mode 3 ("3ν13"). For the higher harmonics 2ν1 and 3ν1, the frequency of oscillation is higher, and hence, absorption occurs at shorter wavelengths.

... Heavy Water,


There is, interestingly, a very clever way to check experimentally this explanation of the blue colour of water by the vibration of its molecules: Just look at heavy water instead of normal water!

In heavy water, D2O, the hydrogen atoms contain deuterons instead of protons, and hence have double the mass of "normal" hydrogen atoms. The electromagnetic forces bonding the hydrogen to the oxygen, however, are the same for heavy water and normal water. But this means that the frequencies of the different vibration modes of the molecule shift to lower values. It's the same phenomenon as when different masses are fixed to a spring: the higher the mass, the lower the frequency of oscillation.

As a consequence, one could expect the excitation of vibrations for the molecules of heavy water happens at lower frequencies than for normal water, hence at longer wavelengths. The increase of the absorption coefficient towards longer wavelengths could be expected to set in further in the infrared, barely touching the visible spectrum. And this is exactly what happens!

The following figure shows a measurement of the absorption spectra of normal and of heavy water, taken from WHY IS WATER BLUE? by Charles L. Braun and Sergei N. Smirnov, reproduced from J. Chem. Edu. 70(8) (1993) 612. The scale of the figures is linear, and the curves to the left are just scaled-up for a better visibility of the shape of the spectrum.



One can see that the bump corresponding to the mode 2ν13 is shifted form a wavelength of about 1,000 nm in normal water to about 1,300 nm in heavy water. There is an analogous shift towards longer wavelengths in all other features, and as result, the absorption spectrum of heavy water in the visible spectrum is nearly flat.

But this means that there are no marked differences in the absorption of light of different colours by heavy water. Thus, heavy water, different from normal water, should be colourless. And indeed, as shown in this photo by Braun and Smirnov, this is really the case!

  While a long tube filled with normal water (left) looks blue due to the absorption of the red component of the visible spectrum, the tube filled with heavy water is colourless (from WHY IS WATER BLUE? by Charles L. Braun and Sergei N. Smirnov).


... and Real Oceans


Beautiful physics is hidden below the blue surface of the ocean. But when I tried to inform me a bit about all this, I've also learned that whole books have been written on the topic, and that "the complexity of sea water as a substance means that its optical properties are essentially different from those of pure water. Sea water contains numerous dissolved mineral salts and organic substances, suspensions of solid organic and inorganic particles, including various live microorganisms, and also gas bubbles and oil droplets. Many of these components [..] absorb or scatter photons." (Light Absorption in Sea Water by Bogdan Woźniak and Jerzy Dera, page 5).

Here is a comparison of the absorption spectra of samples of water taken from different places around the globe (Light Absorption in Sea Water, page 6).



Curve 5, which resembles most the absorption spectrum of water we have seen above, has been measured in a sample taken from the Tonga Trench in the Pacific Ocean, at a depth of 10,000 m. And curve 8, the uppermost flat one, has been measured in surface water from the Gulf of Riga in the Baltic Sea.

From the shape of this spectrum, I would guess the sea near Riga looks more grey than blue.



Edit: The first version of the post falsely claimed that a microwave oven heats up food by setting into vibration the molecules of water. That's not correct: Microwaves, with frequencies in the range between 0.3 GHz and 300 GHz, corresponding to wavelengths from 1 mm to 1 m, have not enough energy to excite the vibrational modes of the water molecule. What the electromagnetic field of microwave frequencies does is to shake the water molecules by grappling them by their electrical dipole moments, and to set them in rotation. A detailed explanation can be found on Martin Chaplins unique site, Water Structure and Science", under Water and Microwaves.

Actually, the wavelength of microwaves is about a factor of 1000 longer than in the infrared and far infrared region where the vibrational absorption bands can be found. The vibrational bands in the infrared, though, make water vapour a strong greenhouse gas.

Thanks to all our readers who have pointed out the mistake to me, especially CIP and Jay!




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Tuesday, January 27, 2009

This and That

Something to look at:



Sunday, January 25, 2009

Change You Can Believe In

“We will restore science to its rightful place.”
~Barack Obama, Inauguration Speech



I have a complaint.

It is impossible these days to live in North America and not be optimistic about the changes the new President of the United States will hopefully initiate, especially for science. These are not easy times for somebody who has pessimism as substantial ingredients in her bloodstream. Psychologists call it “preventive pessimism.” It's essential for my survival. And every time somebody mocks me about it I point out the world needs pessimists. There's too few of us. And we're constantly afraid we'll die out.

Currently your local blogging pessimist is wondering what the heck “restoring science to its rightful place” means. Where is the “rightful place” of science? Who decides that? And how is science supposed to get there? Most people seem to assume the statement is an announcement of financial support towards governmental funding bodies. The optimist is excited. The pessimist points out money alone isn't sufficient, it also matters how it is used. And there are problems one just can't solve with money.

The Academic System

I have written many times on the problems with the present academic system, for example here and here. The central point is, as far as the internal organization is concerned, that the individual incentive structure of the academic system does not presently result in a desirable macro behavior - that would be an efficient use of time, human and financial resources. Instead, the present system rewards behavior that does not necessarily have anything to do with good scientific research. The reasons for this are most importantly:

  • The use of simplified measures for scientific success that, once institutionalized, turn into goals researchers pursue for their own sake (like a high number of publications or citations).

  • Career obstacles for those who want to change their field of research which creates incentives to stick with a topic even if returns diminish and other areas lack personnel.

  • Neglecting to pay attention to sociological effects in large and growing communities which can result in severe misjudgement of promises, hypes, fashion trends, and bubbles of nothing.

This is how far the internal organization is concerned.

Being a scientist is not an easy task. It requires ignoring personal preferences, likes and dislikes and to just focus on the evidence. It is a process that can very easily be skewed by any sort of external pressure, may that be financial pressure, peer pressure or time pressure. Regarding the external organization one further has to worry that public pressure negatively affects researchers objectivity.

The academic “ivory tower” allowed research to flourish in an environment free from such pressures. This protection has now mostly crumbled away, which goes on the expenses of scientific integrity. This is what needs to be restored. It's not that researchers are not aware their interests are being affected, and they don't notice they have to waste time with playing silly games to remain in the market. It's that the problem is a system failure that disables its own repair because spending time on that repair also would be against the individual interest.

Restoring Science

    “We will increase support for high-risk, high-payoff research portfolios at our science agencies.”
~Barack Obama, Sciencedebate 2008

Sounds good, doesn't it? (Or at least it did before we learned that some high-risk, high-payoff folks wrecked our financial system.) But what does that mean? Who decides how much risk is good for science? Will we get central planning? Will somebody compute it?

I think all such prescriptions are temporary fixes, and will eventually cause new problems. Today you might call for more risk-taking, tomorrow you'll be complaining about too much risk-taking. The only way to address these questions is to allow the system to self-optimize. That means in particular, give scientists enough freedom to chose which path they think leads to progress - within the constraints given by the overall direction the society set. Just trust these scientists. Their individual goal is knowledge discovery, and if you just let them follow these goals that will get you exactly what you want - progress.

In more detail:
  1. Scientific progress is a long-term project. Running it with people on short-term contracts creates an internal disagreement between individual interest and the long-term goals, especially when combined with high competitive pressure. Scientists will be forced to focus on projects that fit into a short time frame, and they will have to watch out for letters of recommendation necessary for their next job search.

    To solve the problem, create decent middle-class-jobs for scientists. These don't have to be high-profile jobs, but they shouldn't be crappy short-term contracts either. People who chose academia aren't there because they want to become rich. They are there because they love science. Just give them a sensible job, one in which they can continue if they do well, one in which they can pursue long-term projects and don't have to be concerned about shifts in the public opinion or the approval of their peers.

    In short: stop the trend of exporting more and more research to postdocs on 2 year contracts.


  2. Avoid that researchers can get stuck in a field and make sure they can change into a different one without too large personal drawbacks. Unless one makes sure this is the case one will create groups of people who self-support their own work and colleagues working on similar projects to increase their own career chances.

    To solve the problem, don't require extensive prior experience in a very narrow field of expertise to obtain funding. Instead, look at the applicant's ability to carry out research projects in general. Further, support people who want to learn the basics of a new field, and give them a grace period in which they will likely not be highly productive.


  3. Appropriately reward community services - they keep science healthy. That might be eg peer review, public outreach or writing review articles - even if no original research. All these are activities we need, but they are currently underappreciated.


  4. Restore autonomy of researchers and research institutions. Reduce financial dependence and personal dependence of researchers. That means in particular, don't require researchers to get in grants to obtain tenure - it exports power to funding agencies. Don't assign researchers to supervisors or specific topics unless absolutely necessary. Instead, promote independence to support originality.


  5. Especially in basic research, don't require scientists to plan ahead for several years, this is completely off reality. A five year plan for a research project can become redundant within the first month. A common practice is thus to file in proposals about projects that are already finished or almost finished because then one can write what funding agencies like to hear: lots of details already with results. That's one of the games people have learned to play.

    How to solve the problem: orient proposal requirements on the reality of the research field, and fund researchers who have demonstrated the ability to carry out research projects without asking for detailed plans. Have a little faith and don't overplan.



The balance between high-risk and conservative research, and between specialization and interdisciplinarity will vary from field to field, and from one decade to the next. Just make sure the system is able to accommodate these changing needs and can achieve a dynamical balance.

Bottomline
    “Science is the only news. When you scan through a newspaper or magazine, all the human interest stuff is the same old he-said-she-said, the politics and economics the same sorry cyclic dramas, the fashions a pathetic illusion of newness, and even the technology is predictable if you know the science. Human nature doesn’t change much; science does, and the change accrues, altering the world irreversibly.”
~Stewart Brand

If you want change you can believe in, free scientific research from the constraints of an outdated academic system.

Saturday, January 24, 2009

Conservative solutions to the black hole information problem

Exclusively for the readers of this blog, an executive summary of my recent paper:
    Conservative solutions to the black hole information problem
    By Sabine Hossenfelder and Lee Smolin
    arXiv: 0901.3156,

which provides a classification of solution attempts to the black hole information loss problem. As a warm-up, I recommend you read my post on the Black Hole Information Loss Paradox. You will notice that in this earlier post the basic argument of the paper is already outlined. The paper just makes the definitions more precise, and discusses the options one has to solve the problem based on how radical departures from semi-classical gravity they require. Not to mention that the paper has a lot of nice figures. We have made some effort to make the paper understandable for a broad audience, so don't be shy and download the full thing.

The Core of the Problem: The Singularity

The essence of the argument is the following: A singularity is something you don't want to cross your path. Why? Because infinities are dangerous. They crunch and destroy things, they literally set an end to existence, and in doing so they are indifferent as to what exactly crossed their way. A singularity is always singular. Infinity is always infinity. As such, crossing a singularity is an irreversible process. The problem is that once an initial state ended up being singular, you can't figure out what it looked like originally.

The problem with black hole information is that evolution is not unitary if you believe that the initial state of the black hole gets converted mostly into thermal radiation to excellent precision. Non-unitarity is generally considered an unappealing property because it is in conflict with quantum mechanics and can cause all kinds of nasty side-effects you don't want. But an evolution that is not reversible cannot be unitary. Reversibility is not a sufficient, but a necessary condition for unitarity. However, since irreversibility is a characteristic of the presence of singularities, first thing you want to allow for a unitary evolution is to remove the singularity. Classically, this singularity is unavoidable. But we know that close to the singularity the curvature gets very strong (into the Planckian regime) and classical General Relativity (GR) is no longer valid. It should be replaced by a more fundamental theory that can be expected to remove the singularity, though the details are not well understood today.

The paper offers a generalization of the classical singularities in GR that can be used for spacetimes that might have quantum gravitational regions. Throughout the paper we have tried not to make any specific assumptions about the unknown fundamental theory. The problem with the classical definition of geodesic completeness is that the notion of a geodesic, which relies on the presence of a metric, might not make sense any longer in the presence of strong quantum gravitational effects. The definition we are suggesting is motivated by the classical definition, and is then what I outlined above: a space-time is non-singular if evolution is time-reversible. It then follows trivially that a singular space-time generically suffers from information loss. Thus, a black hole space-time without information loss can not be singular in the so defined sense. If you want to understand what happens to the black hole information, first thing you should do is thus to get rid of the singularity.

It is honestly a mystery to me why some people are so obsessed with the black hole horizon, believing that the horizon is the problem. The horizon is not where information gets destroyed. It is merely some surface where the information becomes irretrievable from the outside. Not to mention that the horizon can be at arbitrarily small background curvature. One thus shouldn't expect any quantum gravitational effects to be relevant at the horizon, and no reason to seek a solution there.

Radical and Conservative Solutions

Removing the singularity removes an obstacle to unitary evolution, but it doesn't explain how information survives. In the paper we discuss the possibilities one has if one just accepts that quantum gravitational effects are negligible until the very endstate of the evaporation. These solutions we have dubbed “conservative” . Everything else that requires non-locality on horizon scales or quantum gravitational effects in the weak curvature regime and so on, we have called “radical”.

The conservative solutions can be classified into three cases. In all of them it is assumed the singularity is removed by quantum gravitational effects:

  1. The information is released in the final Planck phase, in which case there never is a real event horizon (in the paper, that's option 3).

  2. The information survives in a baby universe that disconnects from our universe ( option 4A).

  3. The information survives in a permanent, massive remnant (option 4B).

Most importantly, conservative solutions imply that the endstate of black hole evaporation - when the black hole has about Planck mass and Planck size - carries a (potentially arbitrarily large) amount of information. The reason is simply that, if one accepts that the semi-classical approximation holds, Hawking radiation does not carry any information (except its temperature). Thus, the information has to remain inside. We thus have an endstate that must be able to store a large amount of information, even though it has a small surface area. This speaks in particular for the surface-interpretation of the black hole entropy. Objects with these properties are known to be possible in General Relativity, we have discussed such “bags of gold” and “monsters” in a recent post.

The three above mentioned possible cases have been discussed for some while in the literature until some time in the mid 90s. There are some objections to all of them that we address in the paper. All in all, though valid objections, they are not terribly convincing. It is thus puzzling to some extend why there hasn't been more effort invested in what seem to be the most straightforward outcomes of black hole evaporation. Unfortunately, I have had many times the impression these conservative solutions were abandoned prematurely for the sake of creating more fanciful radical solutions, for not say, absurd speculations.

A note on the definition of singularities we are using: If one had a fundamental theory to describe spacetime in the regions with strong quantum graviational effects, one could consider other notions of singular spacetimes, for example by using divergence of operators describing the background curvature or likewise. Then there arises the question how this definition would coincide with the one we have been using. One could imagine cases where they do not. Eg, the information of fields propagating in the background might not be sensitive to a curvature singularity, or the singularity itself could encode information.

Bottomline

The sane thing to do is to stick with conservative options until we are sure it's a no-go. That requires in particular understanding the properties of Planck-sized quantum graviational objects with high entropy.