Yes very pretty, yet I’m not quite sure what to make of the geometry after we zoom out past the galaxy as it looks somewhat asymmetrical. One thing for certain the zoom would be incredibly exponential in relation to time. I’ve always found it hard to imagine a view that would have one looking at the universe from beyond its limit as what actually can we make of something that has no boundary or edge. Yes I know we can draw upon analogy like restricting ourselves to imagining being a two dimension creature restricted to the surface of a sphere, yet in many ways this still doesn’t help when stepping off the sphere means going beyond all space and time. It's when I think of this it hits me as to how truly limited creatures we are in many ways.
“This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being. And if the fixed stars are the centres of other like systems, these, being formed by the like wise counsel, must be all subject to the dominion of One; especially since the light of the fixed stars is of the same nature with the light of the sun, and from every system light passes into all the other systems: and lest the systems of the fixed stars should, by their gravity, fall on each other mutually, he hath placed those systems at immense distances one from another.”
Isaac Newton- Principia Mathematica [1687]
I wonder what Isaac’s response would have been if told that not only are they placed at great distances from one another, yet this distance was increasing exponentially, to have him not to worry of it ending resultant of the crunch thought inevitable of gravity, yet rather the relentless nature of time.
Thanks for that as I thought they had discovered something that I hadn’t become aware. To tell you the truth I was more hopeful they would show more clearly the threadlike gossamer appearance that presents itself so strongly in the CMB renderings.
So what are you saying, Andrew? That if we back off far enough to see this wonderful explosion we're inside of known as The Universe, the REAL secret of reality is that we're really just a point on Groucho Marx's mustache? Interesting if so. I bet Alan Guth would believe that. ;-}
"Hey, can i borrow 12 dollars? I'll give you my ninety-day note. If I don't pay you back in 90 days, you can keep the note." ... Groucho Marx, in "Duck Soup"
lol ... still a classic, still funny.
"There are 10^500 solutions to string theory in the anthropic landscape" ... Polchinski and Susskind
Funnier yet!
Hey Andrew, question time. Why have you shut down comments on your website on "The Arrow of time" and "The Cosmic Universe"?
Because I wanted to add the comment:
So let me get this straight Andrew. Free Will is both real AND an illusion? Duality! Tre sweet!
Hi Steven: "Why have you shut down comments on your website on "The Arrow of time" and "The Cosmic Universe"?
Basically, I've been answering comments for three years and I doubt there's much left to say on these subjects. Also, there's so many comments that it has pushed the page size way beyond acceptable limits. I have to call a halt at some point.
(We shouldn't be discussing this on Bee's blog!). Merry Christmas, Steven. Thanks for your support.
That huge immensity of space where even the local cluster of galaxies shrinks to a dot - but someone is baking Christmas cookies somewhere within that dot :)
Hi Bee,
ReplyDeleteYes very pretty, yet I’m not quite sure what to make of the geometry after we zoom out past the galaxy as it looks somewhat asymmetrical. One thing for certain the zoom would be incredibly exponential in relation to time. I’ve always found it hard to imagine a view that would have one looking at the universe from beyond its limit as what actually can we make of something that has no boundary or edge. Yes I know we can draw upon analogy like restricting ourselves to imagining being a two dimension creature restricted to the surface of a sphere, yet in many ways this still doesn’t help when stepping off the sphere means going beyond all space and time. It's when I think of this it hits me as to how truly limited creatures we are in many ways.
Best,
Phil
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ReplyDeleteHi Bee,
ReplyDelete“This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being. And if the fixed stars are the centres of other like systems, these, being formed by the like wise counsel, must be all subject to the dominion of One; especially since the light of the fixed stars is of the same nature with the light of the sun, and from every system light passes into all the other systems: and lest the systems of the fixed stars should, by their gravity, fall on each other mutually, he hath placed those systems at immense distances one from another.”
Isaac Newton- Principia Mathematica [1687]
I wonder what Isaac’s response would have been if told that not only are they placed at great distances from one another, yet this distance was increasing exponentially, to have him not to worry of it ending resultant of the crunch thought inevitable of gravity, yet rather the relentless nature of time.
Best,
Phil
Hi Phil,
ReplyDeleteDo you mean the data from the Sloane Digital Sky Survey? It just didn't cover the whole sky, that's why it looks assymetrical. Best,
B.
Hi Bee,
ReplyDeleteThanks for that as I thought they had discovered something that I hadn’t become aware. To tell you the truth I was more hopeful they would show more clearly the threadlike gossamer appearance that presents itself so strongly in the CMB renderings.
Best,
Phil
I guess we can't easily survey galaxies obscured by the galaxy we're embedded in. And one hemisphere of the earth has more telescopes than the other.
ReplyDeleteHi Bee,
ReplyDeletesimply fascinating!!!
Best Kay
The video here is similar, but incorporates the latest image from the Hubble deep field telescope.
ReplyDeleteSo what are you saying, Andrew? That if we back off far enough to see this wonderful explosion we're inside of known as The Universe, the REAL secret of reality is that we're really just a point on Groucho Marx's mustache? Interesting if so. I bet Alan Guth would believe that. ;-}
ReplyDelete"Hey, can i borrow 12 dollars? I'll give you my ninety-day note. If I don't pay you back in 90 days, you can keep the note."
... Groucho Marx, in "Duck Soup"
lol ... still a classic, still funny.
"There are 10^500 solutions to string theory in the anthropic landscape"
... Polchinski and Susskind
Funnier yet!
Hey Andrew, question time. Why have you shut down comments on your website on "The Arrow of time" and "The Cosmic Universe"?
Because I wanted to add the comment:
So let me get this straight Andrew. Free Will is both real AND an illusion? Duality! Tre sweet!
Hi Steven: "Why have you shut down comments on your website on "The Arrow of time" and "The Cosmic Universe"?
ReplyDeleteBasically, I've been answering comments for three years and I doubt there's much left to say on these subjects. Also, there's so many comments that it has pushed the page size way beyond acceptable limits. I have to call a halt at some point.
(We shouldn't be discussing this on Bee's blog!). Merry Christmas, Steven. Thanks for your support.
That huge immensity of space where even the local cluster of galaxies shrinks to a dot - but someone is baking Christmas cookies somewhere within that dot :)
ReplyDelete