tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post8863853368106587724..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: What is ultimately possible in physics?Sabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-80957532816610918242009-10-05T12:42:42.503-04:002009-10-05T12:42:42.503-04:00Hi Nige,
No clue what books you've read/lectu...Hi Nige,<br /><br />No clue what books you've read/lectures you've heard. The ones I have tell you what the theory is, what the tests are, to what precision it has been tested, and ideally also cover possible extensions/alternatives and constraints on these, though you might have to refer to a review article for the latter in case your book isn't up to date (which textbooks frequentlySabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-51556171659928058652009-10-05T12:19:45.147-04:002009-10-05T12:19:45.147-04:00Hi Pacifist,
Well, that comment was meant tongue ...Hi Pacifist,<br /><br />Well, that comment was meant tongue in cheek, sorry if that wasn't clear. I've seen my share of pointless fights and know what you're talking about. I am sorry to hear though that the criticism you have witnessed has always been of the personal sort. While I have certainly seen that too, I have luckily also seen and experienced the other side, that of Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-14444669317359161182009-10-05T07:45:26.675-04:002009-10-05T07:45:26.675-04:00(Some books like Feynman's "QED" and...(Some books like Feynman's "QED" and Peter Woit's "Not Even Wrong" list and discuss some of the issues with the Standard Model, like those in the Higgs field and the empirically-fitted Weinberg electroweak mixing angle, but even the best of them don't make the point that parts of them theory are tested facts and other parts are just epicycles. E.g., Feynman writesnigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03402194253543690982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-52520171956951010082009-10-05T07:32:16.027-04:002009-10-05T07:32:16.027-04:00"Sorry, I don't quite get what you mean. ..."Sorry, I don't quite get what you mean. What "facts" are allegedly "censored out" by whom? ... I am afraid that 99% of contributions would just advertise the author's own work, so it's probably not going to be very insightful."<br /><br />Hi Bee,<br /><br />The facts concerning the exact areas where the Standard Model and General Relativity are nigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03402194253543690982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-21798724168146731892009-10-05T00:38:31.075-04:002009-10-05T00:38:31.075-04:00Hi Bee,
“Scientific progress is driven by curios...Hi Bee,<br /><br /><i> “Scientific progress is driven by curiosity, and the desire to contribute a piece to mankind’s increasing body of knowledge. It lives from creativity, from stubbornness, and from hope. What I have shown here is that there is always reasonto hope.” </i><br />-Sabine Hossenfelder-The Frontier of Knowledge<br /><br />I find your summation to be the most compelling part of Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-28925556184322229112009-10-05T00:27:04.882-04:002009-10-05T00:27:04.882-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-45785681437981432922009-10-04T22:22:43.393-04:002009-10-04T22:22:43.393-04:00"The amount of controversy is to some extend ..."The amount of controversy is to some extend cultural though. Americans for example suffer from an over-extreme politeness that sometimes isn't beneficial for scientific arguments. Mix them with some South or East Europeans and you get action. "<br /><br />Yes, the kind of action one gets from Lubos Motl. <br /><br />I'm sorry, but the very strong impression I have of "Pacifistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-73785998600998550522009-10-04T11:46:56.133-04:002009-10-04T11:46:56.133-04:00Zephir: To make things absolutely clear, the topic...Zephir: To make things absolutely clear, the topic of this post is the ultimately possible in physics, not Zephir, not censorship, and not the aether. Thanks for your understanding. Best,<br /><br />B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-28052277108620518812009-10-04T11:45:12.765-04:002009-10-04T11:45:12.765-04:00Hi Bee,
to make things absolutelly clear, I'...Hi Bee, <br /><br />to make things absolutelly clear, I'm just talking about Aether and absence of censorship like about very ultimate possibilities in physics all the time.Zephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-69182549726796646292009-10-04T11:33:35.827-04:002009-10-04T11:33:35.827-04:00Zephir: If you meant to say that this blog gathers...Zephir: If you meant to say that this blog gathers reasonable and polite people interested in constructive exchange and you don't fit in, that's correct. If you think I'm making it unpleasant for you to spam my comment section with your self-advertisements I'm not interested in and that make no useful contribution, that was exactly my intention. I think we are making progress hereSabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-29375507498021933392009-10-04T11:17:59.421-04:002009-10-04T11:17:59.421-04:00Hi Phill,
a quite objective sign of long-term cen...Hi Phill,<br /><br />a quite objective sign of long-term censorship and conformism of every blog is an occurrence of very loyal, i.e. devote if not sectarian readers, who are result as an long-term selection and evolutionary adaptation (simillia simillibus attractur - compare the Motl's blog for some nice asocial demo).<br /><br />As a censorship should be considered a dishonesting of Zephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-10628358262060099252009-10-04T10:44:08.917-04:002009-10-04T10:44:08.917-04:00Hi Bee & Stefan,
Another thought has just com...Hi Bee & Stefan,<br /><br />Another thought has just come to mind in regards to what I said earlier. I’m reminded that you have always had a policy regarding this blog from the outset that you would not accept, unlike some others have, paid advertisements. This I’ve always thought to be a sound, thoughtful and ethical decision on your part. However, in this case you should consider making Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-80073413040279193852009-10-04T10:05:44.514-04:002009-10-04T10:05:44.514-04:00Hi Bee & Stefan,
Despite your pleading for co...Hi Bee & Stefan,<br /><br />Despite your pleading for common sense, decency, decorum and other words that would serve to describe thoughtful and civilized conduct, all has had no effect. This I would accredit to being only assignable to someone not having the capacity to understand such concepts, since they have to do with requiring having at least some minimal ability to extending ones Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-92190448469205544282009-10-04T09:35:33.936-04:002009-10-04T09:35:33.936-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-75396213064638676152009-10-04T08:11:55.643-04:002009-10-04T08:11:55.643-04:00/*...and undergrads who disobey orders (MgB2 super.../*...and undergrads who disobey orders (MgB2 supercon Tc)....*/<br />MgB2 superconductor isn't so fundamental at all - just try to search for Prins and superconductivity keywords on the web. Room temperature superconductivity was revealed by guy, which even didn't interested about superconductivity at all.Zephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-42067932771775262322009-10-04T08:07:37.732-04:002009-10-04T08:07:37.732-04:00Zephir
get some reality check - you are completel...Zephir<br /><br />get some reality check - you are completely ridiculous. And, please, be so kind, and leave some comment space left for other people.<br /><br />Thanks.stefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09495628046446378453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-18532768514128057742009-10-04T08:07:22.613-04:002009-10-04T08:07:22.613-04:00Zephir: Look, no matter what topic I write on, you...Zephir: Look, no matter what topic I write on, you clog my comment section with "aether, aether, aether." I have already told you several times that I'm not interested in you theory of whatever and I regard your behavior as a crudely impolite abuse of our hospitality. You prefer to call that "censorship" simply because it makes you feel more relevant. I don't quite Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-11164913382631819162009-10-04T08:00:44.175-04:002009-10-04T08:00:44.175-04:00/*...Okay, Zephir, thanks, that's enough...*/
.../*...Okay, Zephir, thanks, that's enough...*/<br />This is how censorship appears in real life. Please, don't ask, "what "facts" are allegedly "censored out" by whom" next times, until you really don't want hear the answer.Zephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-79115844722832759402009-10-04T07:56:44.564-04:002009-10-04T07:56:44.564-04:00Your negativism and personal problems with "c...Your negativism and personal problems with "chronically off-topic self-advertisements" are based on your fear of competition - despite of you're able/willing to admit it - or not. I'm not advertising yourself, remaining completely anonymous, I'm not filling blogs with stories from my personal life - but I'm explaining the relevance of ancient Aether concept.Zephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-82628582424767257842009-10-04T07:48:57.150-04:002009-10-04T07:48:57.150-04:00Okay, Zephir, thanks, that's enough. Please di...Okay, Zephir, thanks, that's enough. Please discuss the aether in any form you wish on your blog. This post is about the FQXi essay contest. Exclusively. Best,<br /><br />B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-65895597918807583612009-10-04T07:45:49.806-04:002009-10-04T07:45:49.806-04:00/*..Ted Jacobson being one of them..*/
Every theor.../*..Ted Jacobson being one of them..*/<br />Every theory is defined by its postulate set. Ted Jacobson models have nothing to do with Descartes aether model, because it doesn't uses it in his derivations, thus violating scientific priority and consistency of this concept. It's just another attempt of formally thinking theorists, how to make Aether concept vague and void in the eyes of Zephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-9934346369919458382009-10-04T07:40:18.970-04:002009-10-04T07:40:18.970-04:00I am allegedly "separating" your posts n...I am allegedly "separating" your posts not because they are chronically off-topic self-advertisements but because I fear your "competition." Give me a break. Best,<br /><br />B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-81177903005512078852009-10-04T07:37:02.407-04:002009-10-04T07:37:02.407-04:00/*...what "facts" are allegedly "ce.../*...what "facts" are allegedly "censored out" by whom?..*/<br /><br />Competetion in contemporary science leads to emergent censorship. This censorship isn't organized, but <a href="http://www.physorg.com/help/comments/" rel="nofollow">the more uncompromising</a>. This is why you're trying to separate my posts from discussion under various less or more transparent Zephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-8596075551535034632009-10-04T07:30:34.496-04:002009-10-04T07:30:34.496-04:00Zephir: I hate to destroy your illusions about bei...Zephir: I hate to destroy your illusions about being the sole defender or the aether, but there are actually several established physicists who work on some sort of aether in one way or the other, <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/0801.1547" rel="nofollow">Ted Jacobson</a> being one of them. Best,<br /><br />B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-68803215806476516402009-10-04T07:26:59.430-04:002009-10-04T07:26:59.430-04:00I don't know a single example of a "centr...I don't know a single example of a "central idea that everyone agrees on is rubbish."<br /><br />Aether concept is such an idea in context of mainstream science.Zephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.com