tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post6203094422850926530..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Should the Nobel Prize be given to collaborations and institutions?Sabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-26748282048324328442013-10-16T12:33:44.210-04:002013-10-16T12:33:44.210-04:00As I've said elsewhere, I agree. Having hundr...As I've said elsewhere, I agree. Having hundreds or thousands of laureates would weaken the prize. One can debate whether the limit should be 3 or 4 or 5 (this is a change from Nobel's will, which specified 1 person per prize and year, for work done during the previous year (this has also been changed)), but one has to draw the line somewhere.Phillip Helbighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12067585245603436809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-59382183775003210642013-10-12T09:54:04.982-04:002013-10-12T09:54:04.982-04:00The Nobel prize was originally dedicated by Alfred...The Nobel prize was originally dedicated by Alfred Nobel to findings of practical importance ("greatest benefit on mankind"), which the Higgs boson definitely isn't. The mainstream physics embezzles the Nobel's heritage in this way. <br /><br />The theorists in physics have their own prizes already (and much higher than the Nobel's one, btw..) If we would celebrate the Zephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-61331456088893183392013-10-12T05:17:08.788-04:002013-10-12T05:17:08.788-04:00This text begins by asking if the committee "...This text begins by asking if the committee "should be allowed to consider institutions and collaborations", but then it seems to be answering the question whether the they should often/usually/always do so.<br /><br />Can't one think that it's usually best to give it to a few persons but that there might be occasions where it's good to give it to a large group or Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18099547116766540008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-62471270514088351662013-10-12T02:32:30.770-04:002013-10-12T02:32:30.770-04:00"It’s a grey and foggy Friday here. The cloud..."It’s a grey and foggy Friday here. The clouds are hanging around like they’ve been out all night and even the leaves are too tired to jump off the trees."<br /><br />We are in a poetic mood I see:-)Giotishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03594944884584261018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-81149109303751511172013-10-11T18:33:38.191-04:002013-10-11T18:33:38.191-04:00I agree with the thrust of this post, and I think ...I agree with the thrust of this post, and I think a good example is the way other Nobel prizes can be somewhat diluted by awards to institutions.<br />In Ireland, one particular academic routinely appears in the media as a 'Nobel laureate' because he was a member of the IPCC team. I think the team do excellent work, but the chap in question isn't even a scientist...hmmmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-31011346524630853442013-10-11T11:17:24.207-04:002013-10-11T11:17:24.207-04:00Birth of really big stuff is ugly: belittled Boly...Birth of really big stuff is ugly: belittled Bolyai, patent clerk Einstein; Otto Stern dinging the Dirac equation, Lenny Susskind suffering Gell-Mann's laughter in a Coral Gables elevator. Curing gastric ulcers was a witch burning. Pedersen's Nobel Lecture was <a href="http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/chemistry/laureates/1987/pedersen-lecture.pdf" rel="nofollow">grotesque</a> (Uncle Alhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05056804084187606211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-57593650421100204882013-10-11T09:53:52.003-04:002013-10-11T09:53:52.003-04:00Brilliant, scientists. Unique. And. Human. That....Brilliant, scientists. Unique. And. Human. That. Must. Be good. Nordic. Coffee if you wrote peeved.<br />L. Edgar Ottohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525169618204198073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-71505758718007930962013-10-11T06:57:26.427-04:002013-10-11T06:57:26.427-04:00I agree with you, Sabine.
As per some of your ot...I agree with you, Sabine. <br /><br />As per some of your other blogs, <i>I agree with you and then some</i>. I disagreed with Sean Carroll's piece on a number of counts. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that IMHO large collaborations and institutions sometimes actively impede scientific progress. Things like groupthink, running with the herd, and consensus can get in the way of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1969111150760883932013-10-11T06:39:26.707-04:002013-10-11T06:39:26.707-04:00Hi Bee,
All good points with which I agree, yet m...Hi Bee,<br /><br />All good points with which I agree, yet more than anything else I think Nobel realized the world needs heroes and heroines for humanity to express its ambitions and need of meaningful purpose.<br /><br /><i><b> 'Without heroes, we are all plain people and don't know how far we can go.</b></i><br /><br />-Bernard Malamud <br /><br />Best,<br /><br />PhilPhil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.com