tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post5245778029891556075..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: The End of Arrogance?Sabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-15319761508910255902008-10-07T21:20:00.000-04:002008-10-07T21:20:00.000-04:00Jee-zuz,it seems you cant swallow the truth,the st...Jee-zuz,<BR/>it seems you cant swallow the truth,the story about Henry Ford is true,but he was not the only one,<BR/>"...By 1930, John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil company had 'married' the I.G. Farben chemical pharmaceutical cartel," writes Dr. Horowitz in the book. <BR/>"Farben's directors <BR/>-- the cream of the SS and Third Reich -- decided that Jewish people would best serve as slave laborAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-13828834839056952672008-10-07T16:52:00.000-04:002008-10-07T16:52:00.000-04:00Bee:How many blogs would it take to spread this me...<B>Bee</B>:<I>How many blogs would it take to spread this message and cause a classical run on the banks?</I><BR/><BR/>Pensions under investment, and the numbers being displayed have a roller coaster effect, and are defining for some whether they need to pull "all their money out."<BR/><BR/> Retirement has now been extended for a lot of folks. They do not need any help to realize what has PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-87490606450186754022008-10-07T14:39:00.000-04:002008-10-07T14:39:00.000-04:00Yes, the situation in Europe is bad too at least f...Yes, the situation in Europe is bad too at least for some countries. I'm considering buying Iceland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-35002399292975189092008-10-07T14:08:00.000-04:002008-10-07T14:08:00.000-04:00Btw, it seems Canada is doing pretty well so far (...Btw, it seems Canada is doing pretty well so far (except for the drop in the Canadian $), or have I missed something?Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-60861288097341321592008-10-07T14:06:00.000-04:002008-10-07T14:06:00.000-04:00Hi Rae Ann,Yes, indeed. And it wasn't hard to see ...Hi Rae Ann,<BR/><BR/>Yes, indeed. And it wasn't hard to see it come. The major problem with Europe is that it is not really a union like the USA, so now the nations can't agree on what to do, and some are doing their own thing while others are waiting what's going to happen. It's a big mess. I wonder how long it swaps over to Asia, maybe next week. It's a big chain reaction going on. I can only Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-34885454808437357952008-10-07T14:00:00.000-04:002008-10-07T14:00:00.000-04:00These few days later, now we are beginning to see ...These few days later, now we are beginning to see that the world's financial problems outside of America are even worse than the ones inside America. The Spiegel article was way too quick to judgment. Perhaps the "American Arrogance" really has always been more of a "European Arrogance" in another land? ;-)Rae Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10239791074376508016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-2356949835492405312008-10-07T04:32:00.000-04:002008-10-07T04:32:00.000-04:00There was an ABC Nightline show on European entrep...There was an ABC Nightline show on European entrepeneurs: French woman who had a medical equipment startup company in Silicon Valley (she was an astronomy major in college!), German Silicon Valley entrepeneur (Andy Bechtolstein, SUN co-founder & Google investor), Indian Silicon Valley entrepeneur. All were notable European immigrants who made it in USA.<BR/><BR/>"Business [ in USA ] is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-89040111132578780412008-10-06T16:10:00.000-04:002008-10-06T16:10:00.000-04:00Amara said: "If one lives inside of the US, there ...Amara said: <BR/>"If one lives inside of the US, there is present through the general culture a kind of arrogance towards the rest of the world that the world revolves around you. It's difficult to get a sense that there are valuable things located outside of the country's borders and that life outside of the US can be excellent or at least high quality and very satisfying. If someone is unsure Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-74110719268426175412008-10-06T01:25:00.000-04:002008-10-06T01:25:00.000-04:00Bee Said:Ignorance isn't excused neither by patrio...<A HREF="http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2008/10/end-of-arrogance.html#c4554957353966992810" REL="nofollow" TITLE="The End of Arrogance">Bee Said</A>:<I>Ignorance isn't excused neither by patriotism nor pride, in combination, pride about own achievements must remain empty because those of others aren't acknowledged</I><BR/><BR/>I am certainly not making any excuses for them or what might appear PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-81923880522157234542008-10-05T21:31:00.000-04:002008-10-05T21:31:00.000-04:00Louis said: "Many of the racial ideologies realize...Louis said: "Many of the racial ideologies realized during the Nazi era were <BR/>imported from the USA."<BR/><BR/>Oh I see. Auschwitz and Treblinka were *forced* on the Germans by the USA. I now understand World War 2 completely. Thanks.<BR/><BR/>But you must admit that the War did change things...instead of murderous Germans convinced of their superiority, we now have self-righteous, highly "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-470101851394066712008-10-05T19:13:00.000-04:002008-10-05T19:13:00.000-04:00Hi Louis,Indeed. And they like to forget it. You m...Hi Louis,<BR/><BR/>Indeed. And they like to forget it. <A HREF="http://www.scientistsandfriends.com/files/secrets.doc" REL="nofollow">You might find this interesting</A>. Best,<BR/><BR/>B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-10843129792874857632008-10-05T19:03:00.000-04:002008-10-05T19:03:00.000-04:00Hi B.,above we can read quotes of Americans who re...Hi B.,<BR/><BR/>above we can read quotes of Americans who reacted to the article: http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,582003,00.html<BR/>and many are quite offensive and speak about the past,how Germany should be grateful of USA etc, but what Americans forget is that the Nazis were heavily influenced by jewish hater Henry Ford,in particular his book The International Jew, the World’s Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-3156555505509255822008-10-05T18:58:00.000-04:002008-10-05T18:58:00.000-04:00Hi Giotis,I agree. I don't think you're naive. Bes...Hi Giotis,<BR/><BR/>I agree. I don't think you're naive. Best,<BR/><BR/>B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-39979905923643215122008-10-05T14:56:00.000-04:002008-10-05T14:56:00.000-04:00Hi Bee,I understand what you are saying and i agre...Hi Bee,<BR/><BR/>I understand what you are saying and i agree. Of course the American people have many virtues. I didn't criticize the people basically but the establishment and their leaders. I am sure that the majority of the Americans don't have a clue about the true agenda of their government.<BR/>Also i want to make clear that when i said that Europe should take the lead, i didn't mean of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-77093889923565711112008-10-05T14:15:00.000-04:002008-10-05T14:15:00.000-04:00Why ever do we need 'big nations' anyway? And what...Why ever do we need 'big nations' anyway? And what would be so great about Europe becoming one - instead of a loose alliance that nevertheless seems to 'work together' so far as it is necessary on the continent-scale (see eg CERN)?<BR/><BR/>The problem with 'big nations' is the same as crop monocultures: when they go well it's great, when they do badly it creates problems of an almost insoluble Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-17418704759133412522008-10-05T11:18:00.000-04:002008-10-05T11:18:00.000-04:00Hi Louis,Who are the 'many' who are 'not comfortab...Hi Louis,<BR/><BR/>Who are the 'many' who are 'not comfortable' with the article? I agree it is an excellent article. I was just trying to say it's kind of cheap to point fingers with hindsight, and I don't want American arrogance to turn into European arrogance. Best,<BR/><BR/>B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-50805970487897894152008-10-05T10:50:00.000-04:002008-10-05T10:50:00.000-04:00Hi Amara,I realize that you didn’t talk about who ...Hi Amara,<BR/><BR/>I realize that you didn’t talk about who should be blamed and yet for most this reluctance to pass the buyout centered around the concept that to take no action would assure those responsible would then naturally be most identified and punished. <BR/><BR/>This is however nonsensical since the money that was squandered was not by and large the property of the perpetrators’, yetPhil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-76475583661758593402008-10-05T07:26:00.000-04:002008-10-05T07:26:00.000-04:00I need my conscience to keep watch over meTo prote...I need my conscience to keep watch over me<BR/>To protect me from myself<BR/>So I can wear honesty like a crown on my head<BR/>When I walk into the promised land<BR/><BR/>We've been too long American dreaming<BR/>And I think we all lost the way<BR/>Forlorn somnambulistic maniacal in the dark<BR/><BR/>~DCDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-37210149374457139152008-10-05T04:16:00.000-04:002008-10-05T04:16:00.000-04:00"All empires fall"The arrogance ("h..."All empires fall"<BR/><BR/>The arrogance ("hubris") comes with the Peak, which leads to the Decline. Everything in Nature happens in cycles, & so does the evolution of countries.<BR/><BR/>As someone pointed out:<BR/><BR/>"when you're on Top, you can afford not-to-be-good"<BR/><BR/>This was told to me by an ex-Northrop engineer (the game of getting US Govt Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-12789521873388961292008-10-04T23:41:00.000-04:002008-10-04T23:41:00.000-04:00Hi,I read the article, an excellent and informativ...Hi,<BR/>I read the article, an excellent and informative one i should add,and wonder why many here are not comfortable with it.<BR/>I would say what is written there is lets say 90% truth. <BR/>One can observe this AMERICAN ARROGANCE for example in relation with IMF(international monetary fund)and the neoliberal economic policy the US was trying to advance and impose on countries in the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-44150256298391599292008-10-04T16:54:00.000-04:002008-10-04T16:54:00.000-04:00Hi Bee,It has come to mind that many think that un...Hi Bee,<BR/><BR/>It has come to mind that many think that unity will foster equilibrium, while this in fact from the scientific viewpoint is a disadvantageous. That is if we are to look to thermodynamics a state of equilibrium leads to a situation where no work can be done and then nothing created. <BR/><BR/>Therefore from this perspective the only way to foster meaningful growth is to have Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-26603621677551631432008-10-04T16:47:00.000-04:002008-10-04T16:47:00.000-04:00Phil: Your words regarding confidence is how I use...Phil: Your words regarding confidence is how I use the expression: 'Can do' attitude. As I said, I find that perspective one of the most appealing about the culture. And I don't believe that I said anything regarding who is to blame. Were you referring to the financial crisis? Yes I agree, there is a price to pay (I think an even larger one now after the bailout). <BR/><BR/>Bee: One of my amaragrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15769062084934190681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-43189998985513834362008-10-04T15:17:00.000-04:002008-10-04T15:17:00.000-04:00Hi Amara,This business of whether or not there sho...Hi Amara,<BR/><BR/>This business of whether or not there should have been a bailout for me is somewhat a redundant debate, as all it actually represents is to admit to there being a problem and give a value as to what as a minimum monetarily may be required to remedy it as to relieve uncertainty and restore confidence. That is to say that no matter how it occurred or who is to blame there is a Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-12860102351708758932008-10-04T14:32:00.000-04:002008-10-04T14:32:00.000-04:00I think things will improve because of competion f...I think things will improve because of competion from China, India, and a stronger Russia.<BR/><BR/>I think that the problem is caused by the fact that the US was in a dominant position after the Cold War.<BR/><BR/>If you are in a powerful position, you can get away with making mistakes, denying that problems exist etc.. Take e.g. editing news reports by scientist for the general public on Count Iblishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07429017672028256731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-21783886592898500042008-10-04T14:15:00.000-04:002008-10-04T14:15:00.000-04:00Hi Bee,Although the article you point to describin...Hi Bee,<BR/><BR/>Although the article you point to describing Europe’s dismay of Canada lacking unity in terms of purpose, policy and thereby directions may be a little overdone, it for the most part is sadly accurate in my opinion. Regionalism is actually at the root of Canada’s formation and has never diminished, yet rather increased as time progressed. It could be said that to a large extentPhil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.com