tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post4737683444322480081..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Particle physicists surprised to find I am not their cheer-leaderSabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger97125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-73472358651878950682019-03-14T11:59:58.039-04:002019-03-14T11:59:58.039-04:00Thank god you are taking the flak, it seems that y...Thank god you are taking the flak, it seems that you're able to handle it.<br />As a person who DID read your book, thanks. Small-minded, short-sighted, self-centered people who are critisizing you from specious motives ought to be ignored, though they're capable of harming the advancement of physics, imho.<br />On a personal note.... your command of english idiom is awesome, considering Wordmemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10443901642340316266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-14653005964732257422019-03-14T09:46:28.448-04:002019-03-14T09:46:28.448-04:00my-film-and-music-reviews,
The reason I keep ment...my-film-and-music-reviews,<br /><br />The reason I keep mentioning my book is that for the book I made a lot of effort expressing myself as clearly as possible and added hundreds of references. I cannot put the same effort into each of my blogposts and certainly not into the comments. <br /><br />I am not "trying to get you to buy my book" - that would be an exceedingly inefficent Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-31891697010078928672019-03-14T06:48:51.049-04:002019-03-14T06:48:51.049-04:00So what is the conclusion? I'm a scientist. Th...So what is the conclusion? I'm a scientist. Therefore should my boyfriend leave me, because >I< can't be trusted? Should I stop teaching, because >I< can't be trusted? I can't help but feel offended by this. I also don't like you trying to get me to buy your book. I understand that you're probably trying to provoke and it obviously works, but I think you my-film-and-music-reviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10670777056993949230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-72410125814058661162019-03-14T04:42:45.290-04:002019-03-14T04:42:45.290-04:00Hello film-And-music-reviews,
You are wrong in cl...Hello film-And-music-reviews,<br /><br />You are wrong in claiming that I did not answer this question. I have answered it many times. As long as scientists do not take measures to prevent that social biases affect their judgement, scientists cannot be trusted. <a href="https://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/03/check-your-biases.html" rel="nofollow">I most recently wrote about this here</a>. I Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-16041850167090345192019-03-13T17:21:56.785-04:002019-03-13T17:21:56.785-04:00"You see, the issue they have isn’t that I sa..."You see, the issue they have isn’t that I say particle physics has a problem. Because that’s obvious to everyone who ever had anything to do with the field. The issue is that I publicly say it."<br /><br />No, that is precisely not the point. You said, that physicists can't be trusted anymore and you still didn't answer what you meant by this and why you make this claim. Pleasemy-film-and-music-reviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10670777056993949230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-49487669694685872322019-02-12T19:49:33.515-05:002019-02-12T19:49:33.515-05:00> There's just something special about fund...> There's just something special about fundamental<br />> physics that offers physicists their own little<br />> shot at immortality.<br /><br />Yes. Bombs. Robert Oppenheimer said so.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00702113048755972382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-35552352706097755612019-02-08T00:31:54.959-05:002019-02-08T00:31:54.959-05:00"Eg no new physics up to 10000 TeV would fals...<i>"Eg no new physics up to 10000 TeV would falsify naturalness."</i><br /><br />If you would try to prove this you would notice it's not possible. That's why particle physicists now cannot get themselves to say that naturalness has actually been falsified, though thousands of predictions based on it have been falsified. <br /><br /><i>"In any event I would think that no Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-79798687430402312002019-02-07T09:46:03.998-05:002019-02-07T09:46:03.998-05:00I don't think it represents your position but ...I don't think it represents your position but its not too far away from it either. <br /><br />Its difficult to call naturalness and WIMP arguments unfalsifiable. Eg no new physics up to 10000 TeV would falsify naturalness. <br /><br />In any event I would think that no new physics up to the Planck scale is a fairly unrealistic assertion given the history of discoveries as energies are Summerislehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02638454194112345056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-717421609814488502019-02-07T08:27:31.255-05:002019-02-07T08:27:31.255-05:00No, that misrepresents my position. We know that t...No, that misrepresents my position. We know that there are new things to find. The theories we currently have are not the last words. I am saying we currently have no reason to expect anything new in more highly energetic particle collisions, not until we hit the Planck scale. <br /><br />Naturalness arguments (and the numerical WIMP arguments) have either failed or they are unfalsifiable. Take aSabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-43420088818700351952019-02-07T06:53:49.055-05:002019-02-07T06:53:49.055-05:00I assume that the quote attributed to Kelvin, &qu...I assume that the quote attributed to Kelvin, "There is nothing new to be discovered in physics now" (actually from Michaelson) was mentioned as it isn't too far away from your statement that we have no reason to expect anything more until we hit the Planck scale. <br /><br />I still don't follow your logic that there is no good reason to expect anthing new at, eg, a FCC. Summerislehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02638454194112345056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-68230966661071391622019-02-04T16:08:02.241-05:002019-02-04T16:08:02.241-05:00If you didn't matter, if you were not respecte...If you didn't matter, if you were not respected, if your opinions were easily refuted - nobody would mind, nobody would be rude.Wild Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15587365986993498980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-4274612847908841362019-02-04T14:23:23.559-05:002019-02-04T14:23:23.559-05:00For a while now it has seemed ironic that physicis...For a while now it has seemed ironic that physicists have hurt their funding prospects by overselling the Standard Model (or at least their understanding of it). QCD and its implications for things we care about (protons, nuclei, the early universe) is in no way nailed down. There are old anomalies (e.g. the Kristch findings on transverse polarized proton beam collisions) and new things being SRPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14905952909862780492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-66118848362909571292019-02-04T12:12:48.619-05:002019-02-04T12:12:48.619-05:00"For many people, it‘s not understandable why...<i>"For many people, it‘s not understandable why so much money from taxes is investet into foundational research such as particle physics. Especially not as long they themselves or their children suffer from other deficiencies e.g. in schools."</i><br /><br />You are implying that there is money lacking elsewhere because it is invested in fundamental research. This is wrong. Look at Phillip Helbighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12067585245603436809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-90199661577406033432019-02-04T11:09:39.053-05:002019-02-04T11:09:39.053-05:00Is there a more direct perception than all the mat...Is there a more direct perception than all the math?Gokul Gopisettihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00044660491634948291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-63083878198978735212019-02-04T07:48:34.723-05:002019-02-04T07:48:34.723-05:00Sabine, I think you are mischaracterizing Popper i...Sabine, I think you are mischaracterizing Popper in some ways.This is perhaps causing you some trouble when making these arguments, a lot of these physicists are devotees of Popper. I recently did a philosophy of science course, the professor was a physicist and was at the same workshop in Germany you gave a talk at. <br /><br />According to the course Popper didn't believe in probability in Ross Simpsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02946503426455138966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-27400484361231519692019-02-04T06:03:54.066-05:002019-02-04T06:03:54.066-05:00"There’s always someone who has a question th...<i>"There’s always someone who has a question that’s more of a comment, really."</i><br /><br />I've almost finished reading Kragh's biography of Dirac. He tells a story that after one talk, someone said "I don't understand the derivation of...." Dirac just sat in silence, even though it had been agreed with his host that he would answer questions after the talk.Phillip Helbighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12067585245603436809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-22928636985496474662019-02-04T00:22:00.165-05:002019-02-04T00:22:00.165-05:00Enrico,
I've seen it. These two responses are...Enrico,<br /><br />I've seen it. These two responses are so low quality I am hesitating whether I should even comment on them. As you notice, Randall doesn't seem to get the point. Sure, research is worthwhile also when the outcome is uncertain. That doesn't mean a larger particle collider is the best way we can invest research funding. <br /><br />Yes, haha, "a Miss Universe Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-71043115303001615062019-02-04T00:17:22.387-05:002019-02-04T00:17:22.387-05:00We do not know whether it will find something. Wha...We do not know whether it will find something. What I am saying is that we have no reason to think it will find something. This situation is different now from before.<br /><br />The methods that aren't working are arguments from beauty, notably unification and naturalness. I explain this in great detail in my book. If you search this blog for "naturalness" you will get an idea whatSabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-37794864861026799972019-02-04T00:14:00.325-05:002019-02-04T00:14:00.325-05:001) That is a deliberate misquotation. The full sen...1) That is a deliberate misquotation. The full sentence I wrote is "There is no reason to expect anything more, not until we hit the Planck scale." I do not know what you think this has to do with Kelvin. If you know a reason, then tell me a reason.<br />2) Irrelevant.<br />3) You gave yourself the reason. <br />5) Of course predictions are not 100% certain. If you look at the history Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-82089753532758266762019-02-03T22:00:03.381-05:002019-02-03T22:00:03.381-05:00Sabine,
What do you say to this letter to New Yor...Sabine,<br /><br />What do you say to this letter to New York Times by Lisa Randall in response to your Op-Ed?<br />https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/01/opinion/letters/physics-research-collider-cern.html<br /><br />I’m a fan of Lisa Randall but I don’t think dark matter killed the dinosaurs. Lisa said “Research is worthwhile only when the outcome is uncertain.” Okay. The outcome of SETI is Enricohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11062542721973950650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-70857755052592570062019-02-03T17:29:37.661-05:002019-02-03T17:29:37.661-05:00Just out of curiosity how sure are particles physi...Just out of curiosity how sure are particles physics that a larger particle accelerator won't find anything? ( I'm a chemical engineer not a physics guy) Also what are these methods that they've beet using that haven't been working? I try to research this myself but I can't really "Google" particle physics and get the answer.sumdude132@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03876395328065762703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-75140168110656601992019-02-03T16:09:26.172-05:002019-02-03T16:09:26.172-05:00Sabine, reading you is like seeing the first green...Sabine, reading you is like seeing the first green things in Spring! It makes me happy!<br /><br />You have done an amazing job of delineating the problem - but so far, I don't see much discussion of the origin of the problem, which I see as this - in the Sputnik terror, much societal effort was thrown into bringing people into academic life who, to put it honestly, should have been lawyers drlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05424774416249451584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-74520853024244445732019-02-03T15:48:59.156-05:002019-02-03T15:48:59.156-05:001) "The standard model is complete. There is ...1) "The standard model is complete. There is no reason to expect anything more" (SH, 2019). Oh yeah, and "There is nothing new to be discovered in physics now" (Lord Kelvin, 1900).<br />2) Look, following the protests of less than 1e5 people in France, President Macron delivered 10 billions euros in various programs. Half of the FFC, just like this, almost as an afterthought. TheLambLiesDownOnBroadwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07148586222290109507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-49792208305310266202019-02-03T14:41:04.195-05:002019-02-03T14:41:04.195-05:00Mongo,
I looked into both the globular cluster an...Mongo,<br /><br />I looked into both the globular cluster and wide binaries claims. I found only a couple of rather old papers on the former (none particularly convincing), and quite a few on the latter: even with GAIA DR2 results, the case for significant anomalies seems weak. Also, hasn’t McCulloch’s idea been shown to be inconsistent with observation, in that the Pioneer anomaly now has a “JeanTatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08737430572613792118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-24422197125570318152019-02-03T13:29:55.289-05:002019-02-03T13:29:55.289-05:00I am unaware of any well documented anomalies re “...I am unaware of any well documented anomalies re “wide stellar binaries”. Do you have some references? Also, I do not know of anything anomalous re globular clusters; again, do you have some references? Finally, you did not mention the CMB; why (it’s one of the most impressive pieces of evidence)?JeanTatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08737430572613792118noreply@blogger.com