tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post2555884244680518432..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Public Display of AttentionSabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-46552302724486750942009-06-05T07:15:02.136-04:002009-06-05T07:15:02.136-04:00Hi Bee,
“Come on, you know that light deviation h...Hi Bee,<br /><br />“Come on, you know that light deviation has nothing to do with quantum gravity! “<br /><br />Well yes I know that that light deviation isn’t the heart of the matter, yet if a quantilized theory of gravity is found it will have to be able to explain it in such a context. The central point I was making is that all this is still up for grabs and with many different approaches: allPhil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-28744617429723030812009-06-05T02:22:17.750-04:002009-06-05T02:22:17.750-04:00As somebody pointed out, Motl's website is not...As somebody pointed out, Motl's website is not about physics at all --- it's about his *emotions*. Hey, I think Lubos is an "Emo"! From the Wikipedia page on Emo:<br /><br />Criticism and controversy<br /><br />Misogyny<br />Emo has been criticized for its androcentrism and the tendency of most emo bands to relegate women to the role of muse or heartbreaker in their lyrics.[109]Pope Maledict XVInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-14674619256019387522009-06-04T19:15:58.595-04:002009-06-04T19:15:58.595-04:00W.H.O. Health alert for Motlitis!W.H.O. Health alert for Motlitis!Arunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-21388735816275814852009-06-04T08:04:40.849-04:002009-06-04T08:04:40.849-04:00Hi Phil,
Come on, you know that light deviation h...Hi Phil,<br /><br />Come on, you know that light deviation has nothing to do with quantum gravity! <br /><br />You are of course right that Lee's book isn't exactly the best for an introduction, though I think he does quite a good job explaining what quantum gravity is about and what that has to do with string theory and what else we're doing at PI since that obviously was where the Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-20385988960778519702009-06-04T07:48:07.356-04:002009-06-04T07:48:07.356-04:00Hi Pope,
Yes, I think that describes it very well...Hi Pope,<br /><br />Yes, I think that describes it very well. Best,<br /><br />B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-71427099623487772472009-06-04T07:44:10.449-04:002009-06-04T07:44:10.449-04:00Hi Anonymous,
Thanks for letting me know. That...Hi Anonymous,<br /><br />Thanks for letting me know. That's sick. I never said or wrote anywhere that I "hate" physics, and certainly not to Lubos. I've been moving from Arizona to California to Canada and now to Sweden to have an opportunity to work on what I'm interested in. Evidently, I'm doing that because I hate physics? It's no news for me however that Lubos Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-41654654716473729632009-06-04T01:06:23.611-04:002009-06-04T01:06:23.611-04:00Hey, check out what Lubos wrote. The guy's so...Hey, check out what Lubos wrote. The guy's so deluded:<br /><br />"Sabine Hossenfelder wrote a very revealing story about her discussion with a yellow cab driver. He was absolutely thrilled by physics and string theory: she just hates it. This is not the first time I learned about it: she sent me quite a lot of mail explaining how she hated theoretical physics.<br /><br />"This is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-78443872057172800122009-06-03T16:26:26.056-04:002009-06-03T16:26:26.056-04:00Hi Neil,
Well, I agree with Sean. If you go into ...Hi Neil,<br /><br />Well, I agree with Sean. If you go into a free-falling frame the curvature is a mess, I don't see what you gain from that. I don't know what the result is but since the gravitational field of the earth is too small to significantly affect the emission, I'd suggest you just forget exactly what force it is that determines the trajectory of the charge and compute the Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-24614171198605502912009-06-03T14:32:35.585-04:002009-06-03T14:32:35.585-04:00Over at Cosmic Variance - at the current post whic...Over at Cosmic Variance - at the current post which directly refers to Susskind's work, - I made a query about a weird (to me) problem in GR: its treatment of falling electric charges. An excerpt:<br /><br />...<i>Consider the following: a tunnel is drilled through the Earth, and we let a charged body Q (can be macroscopic, not a “particle”) fall from one side to the other in SHM. It is Neil Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04564859009749481136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-78397364328295903742009-06-03T12:48:52.796-04:002009-06-03T12:48:52.796-04:00Hi Phil,
I think I have been able to identify som...Hi Phil,<br /><br />I think I have been able to identify something very distinct about <a href="http://eskesthai.blogspot.com/2009/06/rhetorician.html" title="Wednesday, June 03, 2009" rel="nofollow">Pirsig's summation</a> in terms of his Journey, as well as, a view one might garner with respect to one's science? <br /><br />Well spoken we may not all be, but "well placed" to PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-52173199456375048212009-06-03T12:24:43.608-04:002009-06-03T12:24:43.608-04:00Dear Ms. Crackpot,
you managed to write one signi...Dear Ms. Crackpot,<br /><br />you managed to write one significant sentence in this post. It is: "I'm not a String Theorist". Congrats.<br /><br />Best, MichaelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-53296726380959670812009-06-03T07:42:26.008-04:002009-06-03T07:42:26.008-04:00Hi Plato,
I thought you might agree with the core...Hi Plato,<br /><br />I thought you might agree with the core of what I said, as you yourself are one such as I that have looked at it from a wider perspective. For many including myself, it is as much we can expect in what do as to be innovative once in a while. However, for those like Bee which comprise the small number of us that actually have the chance to add to the base from which we all Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-5876267799431106172009-06-03T07:34:08.841-04:002009-06-03T07:34:08.841-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-53796323311666348412009-06-03T07:17:30.567-04:002009-06-03T07:17:30.567-04:00We shouldn't forget that the need to understan...We shouldn't forget that the need to understand and explore nature and to wonder about the Cosmos, is hardwired in human idiosyncrasy.<br />It's a constituent of who we are and one of the things that define us as a species.<br /><br />The fact that on the road it became a profession (like everything else due to the way the human societies are organized) is irrelevant in that respect.<br Giotisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-9933241066321414372009-06-03T01:58:38.193-04:002009-06-03T01:58:38.193-04:00Phil:Who, after studying Newton’s magnificent cont...<b>Phil</b>:<i>Who, after studying Newton’s magnificent contribution to thought, could deny that pure science exemplifies the creative accomplishment of the human spirit at its pinnacle?”</i><br><br><br /><br />I agree Phil, that the historical is very important and the "time line" as to where we sit today in terms of science leading us too. Ingenuity offering itself too, "PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-48310871845409161252009-06-03T01:54:38.282-04:002009-06-03T01:54:38.282-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-51722523335959477892009-06-02T22:07:08.847-04:002009-06-02T22:07:08.847-04:00"
He is so excited, I feel really sorry for m..."<br />He is so excited, I feel really sorry for my personal disenchantment with the wonders of physics."<br /><br />Yes, I get that feeling too sometimes. Sometimes you feel like saying, "actually this job can be pretty boring and discouraging if you aren't one of the leading figures, and probably also even if you are. And actually at the moment there is really very little Pope Maledict XVInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-86527074911757581072009-06-02T21:13:05.222-04:002009-06-02T21:13:05.222-04:00Hi Bee,
As Plato said well written, for as I read...Hi Bee,<br /><br />As Plato said well written, for as I read the post I can imagine it all. To be fair though if push got to shove I don’t see many of us, myself included, fairing much better than this fellow if it really got down to the fine points of what you do and explore in your work. That of course would go the same for a lot of specialties regardless what they be. I think the general Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-80166500029233987782009-06-02T21:05:45.473-04:002009-06-02T21:05:45.473-04:00Hi Adam,
Not sure what sentiment you read into my...Hi Adam,<br /><br />Not sure what sentiment you read into my post? People seem to fall into two large categories: They either don't care about physics at all, or they do, but then they they seem to have an overly romantic picture of what it means to be a physicist (and can one blame them?). What the post is supposed to express is that I wish they were more aware of how research looks like in Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-46986528724590316192009-06-02T20:45:07.797-04:002009-06-02T20:45:07.797-04:00Some bizarre sentiments in your post and even more...Some bizarre sentiments in your post and even more bizarre in the comments.<br />Physicists, especially those inclined to make popular-level blogs, would use their time well trying to interact with confused commoners and figure out how to bring their knowledge and ideas to shuttle drivers. TV shows about men walking through the walls and hanging out in a quantum bar lead to more confusion than Adamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-87815441062303176572009-06-02T20:05:50.106-04:002009-06-02T20:05:50.106-04:00Hi Anonymous,
Well, it's not that the guy was act...Hi Anonymous,<br /><br />Well, it's not that the guy was actually dumb, he had just gotten it totally wrong. And I can relate to that because I too found it hard to make sense of popular physics books. I guess I just have a build in desire to help people understand the world they live in, though not sure how useful I am for that purpose. Besides that however, the alternative option would have Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-21698669748664941382009-06-02T19:54:38.682-04:002009-06-02T19:54:38.682-04:00Well at least you were patient enough to correct h...Well at least you were patient enough to correct him. When a layman talk to me about physics, especially if he pretends he understand more than he actually seem to, I just nod and tell them they're right, no matter how off topic they actually are. <br /><br />Like if it were me, that discussion would have look more like : <br />''"Quantum Gravity?" - "Aaah, that is the thing with light going, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-51586692794746765472009-06-02T18:27:50.379-04:002009-06-02T18:27:50.379-04:00Dear Bee,
at least, PI seems to be well-known in ...Dear Bee,<br /><br />at least, PI seems to be well-known in Waterloo, and this sounds as it has a good reputation :-)<br /><br />Cheers, Stefanstefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09495628046446378453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-33145105061459700482009-06-02T14:51:12.371-04:002009-06-02T14:51:12.371-04:00Hi Plato,
Well, I had to drop off the car between...Hi Plato,<br /><br />Well, I had to drop off the car between 7:30 and 8:30 am. At that time I don't usually even talk to people, and in particular not about Brian Greene. I wasn't so much exasperated about the general public's excitement as more about that guy in particular. I usually appreciate any sort of attention we theoretical physicists get since it's rare enough and besides that a topic I Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-22986627896297333692009-06-02T12:58:04.966-04:002009-06-02T12:58:04.966-04:00Had Newton been a Pacific Islander it would have b...Had Newton been a Pacific Islander it would have been a coconut, the problem then solving itself. Physical theory made a wrong turn very early on if it looks like molecular biology. Eight quartz marbles as two opposite parity atomic mass distribution pairs, 90 days in an Eotvos balance, and you would know.<br /><br />Gravitation physics after GR is like the Space Scuttle after the Saturn V Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/noreply@blogger.com