tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post2274323557208075472..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: How to search for alien lifeSabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-23897840912214927322020-06-28T18:00:36.525-04:002020-06-28T18:00:36.525-04:00“...right wing basis...” What a hoot! Rather, ther...“...right wing basis...” What a hoot! Rather, there’s nothing new under the sun, so: many paths, one truth. Indeed heathens realized it, per Aeschylus’s telling of Orestes’s trial, the effect of which (with leave) was to bound the furies. And of those that build the great arc to house it: from too few anointed judges to too many base administrators, whence everyone’s call for sublime sovereign (Emmette Davidsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15566381168125492666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-10588891939941084022020-06-23T01:57:02.945-04:002020-06-23T01:57:02.945-04:00Mozibur12:48 PM, June 22, 2020
"We don't...Mozibur12:48 PM, June 22, 2020<br /><br />"We don't use the term woke here much in Britain."<br /><br />Mmmmmmm, yes, we do. It has been the epicentre of the culture war for years now. It's famously satirised by @TitaniaMcGrath. There is an element of the woke who are trying to control what other people say and do. This is an attempt at social control not social conscience. Or Steven Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13898046706669437332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-61829939974430607322020-06-22T12:48:25.816-04:002020-06-22T12:48:25.816-04:00We don't use the term woke here much in Britai...We don't use the term woke here much in Britain. But my understanding of it is simply being aware of the many different kinds of oppression in the world - social, economical, racial & political. It used to be what's called a social conscience. It still is. <br /><br />I went along to a #BlackLivesMatter protest yesterday. It was entirely peaceful. People talked and listened to each Moziburhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11836761141351221660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-83586718158564866852020-06-21T17:46:39.558-04:002020-06-21T17:46:39.558-04:00Lawrence,
Thanks for your excellent post regarding...Lawrence,<br />Thanks for your excellent post regarding the southern US, religion, and wokeness. I grew up in Memphis a city which is generally considered part of the Old South. After the civil rights movement the white money moved out to the suburbs. Now areas of the city that were vibrant are abandoned with many old homes falling apart, but there are still fine churches everywhere.<br /><br Steve Bullfoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13990244011256349875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-62332960695731268332020-06-21T16:46:09.917-04:002020-06-21T16:46:09.917-04:00I think that being "woke" essentially me...I think that being "woke" essentially mean you have assimilated the understanding that simply not owning slaves doesn't mean one isn't a racist. A lot of white people still don't get this, so I'm leery of the crowd here that uses "wokeness" as a term of derision. I know we intellectuals like to think of ourselves as above politics, but in truth no one can Andrew Dabrowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14194210589133048249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-42759708812205595202020-06-21T10:20:37.523-04:002020-06-21T10:20:37.523-04:00Lawrence Crowell,
I was actually considering only...Lawrence Crowell,<br /><br />I was actually considering only dark energy in the fantasied alien technology scenarios described in my earlier posts. But your idea that dark matter is connected to the Higgs field makes sense to me as that field imparts mass to Standard Model particles, aside from the relativistically generated portion in bound systems. The rest of your comment I really didn’t David Schroederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18048116250413347228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-47685609470998816902020-06-21T10:16:27.838-04:002020-06-21T10:16:27.838-04:00If I wanted to destroy civilization, I would becom...If I wanted to destroy civilization, I would become a microbiologist. Perhaps more specifically a virologist. I would get into a special lab and create infectious diseases. I would allow sloppy procedures to spread the disease for me. No conspiracy needed. I can do that all on my own, with very no conspiracy from other people. If I were the Chinese government, if I knew something like this Michael John Sarnowskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00528454593064091302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1635196711181464702020-06-21T09:11:38.938-04:002020-06-21T09:11:38.938-04:00Dear Dr. A.M. Castaldo. Yes, I meant TIMES not PLU...Dear Dr. A.M. Castaldo. Yes, I meant TIMES not PLUS, it was a typo, I can read equations. Anyway, there is something more than matter and energy in this universe. For example, moral. You have moral. You can deny and condemn things, judge behaviors based on your moral. You can deny God, my God-like aliens, or whatever, because of your moral, your principles. We, as human beings, need to eat otherAlbert Zotkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02745604087015640780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-72226078989422615312020-06-21T08:06:20.861-04:002020-06-21T08:06:20.861-04:00One has to wonder if communities of intelligent be...One has to wonder if communities of intelligent beings on other worlds pass through these phases of societal extremism that we see in our own world today, and in bygone era’s. The censorship and even dismissal of the equivalent of academics on these other worlds would potentially impact their technological progress, temporarily delaying what likely is inevitable – contact with other planetary David Schroederhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18048116250413347228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-24512946669937560842020-06-21T07:55:04.834-04:002020-06-21T07:55:04.834-04:00The term wokeists has become popular of late, wher...The term wokeists has become popular of late, where it has been applied largely to the Black Lives Matter and Me Too movements. I cannot help but see a certain right-winged basis for this, just as Don-the-Con t’Rump says the protests over George Floyd are ANTIFA, which has no basis in facts or evidence. Don’t get me wrong, there are flaws in the left-wing, but largely they are not the really big Lawrence Crowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12090839464038445335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-9821419939067290842020-06-21T07:00:36.418-04:002020-06-21T07:00:36.418-04:00Albert Zotkin: No, MC^2 is test mass TIMES c squar...Albert Zotkin: No, MC^2 is test mass TIMES c squared, so all mass is equivalent to energy, and everything we can detect that isn't mass is also energy, so duh.<br /><br />The pros for extraterrestrial life outweigh the cons; IMO. No, a sanctuary is not a "nature reserve", it means a <b>safe</b> place to stay.<br /><br />The contrary evidence I did not think I had to point to was Dr. A.M. Castaldohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17988116835722393503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-5210359688687254232020-06-21T04:44:11.962-04:002020-06-21T04:44:11.962-04:00No, not everything is pure-energy, what E=MC^2 tel...No, not everything is pure-energy, what E=MC^2 tells us is just that the rest energy equals rest mass plus c squared, but that's not everything, it's just a special small part of everything. <br /><br />The pros and cons of extraterrestrial life evidence are simply null. So, you can't possibly say there's a considerable quantity of contrary evidence on my "sanctuary" Albert Zotkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02745604087015640780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-32249658248441457382020-06-21T03:10:49.571-04:002020-06-21T03:10:49.571-04:00" I wouldn't worry so much about religiou..." I wouldn't worry so much about religious people, in general, religion is winding down in the modern world, "<br /><br />Probably true, but there is still one kind of person who the American electorate would not accept as a Presidential candidate - a self-declared non-believer in fairy tales i.e. someone who is actually *sane* and is brave enough to admit it.Steven Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13898046706669437332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-63971680801413128422020-06-21T02:51:14.518-04:002020-06-21T02:51:14.518-04:00יהוה where are You?
He's not there. But super...יהוה where are You?<br /><br />He's not there. But super-educated physicists like Steve Hsu apparently can't work this out.Steven Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13898046706669437332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-3524377336425647892020-06-21T02:33:34.586-04:002020-06-21T02:33:34.586-04:00Dave, you make some good points backed up by real ...Dave, you make some good points backed up by real examples. I think the Wokeists are crazy ideologues. <br /><br />But I also find it extremely strange when I go to Steve Hsu's website, that in an interview where he explains that *as a scientist* he cannot rule out differences in average abilities between "groups" (seems a fair stance), in the very next breath he talks about "Steven Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13898046706669437332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-46054979071063819382020-06-20T18:01:23.132-04:002020-06-20T18:01:23.132-04:00Steven Evans wrote:
>The religious are just as ...Steven Evans wrote:<br />>The religious are just as bad as the Wokeists - anti-scientific ideologues trying to force their nonsense on others. <br /><br />Steve, I grew up among “the religious” and, yeah, they are as crazy as the Wokeists. I am still angry about all the nightmares I had as a child because of my fear of “going to Hell.”<br /><br />Nonetheless, there are two major differences:<PhysicistDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11111405959451703182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-29932993392535009062020-06-20T14:30:03.326-04:002020-06-20T14:30:03.326-04:00Well, I do sometimes consider myself an atheist, n...Well, I do sometimes consider myself an atheist, not sure if I am a heathen, will have to look that up for the post modern context. Mainly now days I consider myself an old fart. And no matter how hard I try to just lurk, I find myself keep getting sucked back in to Backreaction.<br /><br />Steven Evans, I wouldn't worry so much about religious people, in general, religion is winding down Steve Bullfoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13990244011256349875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-60072765067940643852020-06-20T12:13:10.605-04:002020-06-20T12:13:10.605-04:00Akidbelle thank for reply.
Disorder grows over ti...Akidbelle thank for reply. <br />Disorder grows over time according to our theories; so a cell is the most disordered thing in the world? The virus to reproduce needs to be created by the cell; This is one of the many problems of the type (chicken-egg) in relation to the existence of the first cell; there are several mechanisms inside the cell with this same characteristic; but the other great Luishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05491803947570764962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-38188622483965837392020-06-20T10:53:40.318-04:002020-06-20T10:53:40.318-04:00What I think is more likely than AI replacing us i...What I think is more likely than AI replacing us is that we become integrated with it. AI systems are becoming more capable of computing in ways that emulate what we think of as inductive thinking. This gives some appearance of intelligence, though I am not sure about whether this is actually intelligent and less sure about consciousness. Tegmark has done work on the prospect of AI theoretical Lawrence Crowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12090839464038445335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-6117004052167151982020-06-20T10:41:06.442-04:002020-06-20T10:41:06.442-04:00Albert: I see no evidence for that. And everything...Albert: I see no evidence for that. And everything is "pure energy", that is what E=MC^2 tells you.<br /><br />I also think you are overlooking a considerable quantity of contrary evidence on your "sanctuary" hypothesis; I don't think I need to go into detail on that, even if we just restricted the field to humans. <br /><br />Likewise on the "they love us" Dr. A.M. Castaldohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17988116835722393503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-34299445567522382752020-06-20T09:09:51.912-04:002020-06-20T09:09:51.912-04:00Anyone have any information on the results from th...Anyone have any information on the results from the The Tanpopo mission?<br /><br />dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16012837044482499148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-82464498850241259222020-06-20T08:29:20.313-04:002020-06-20T08:29:20.313-04:00I have read a couple of papers by Hsu. Honestly I ...I have read a couple of papers by Hsu. Honestly I think this is a case of what can happen when people hop fields of study. There is a tendency for physicists, because physics is in some ways more fundamental, to see biology as less intellectually complex or something easily accessed. <br /><br />I think his statements about biologically based racism is what got him in the biggest trouble. I Lawrence Crowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12090839464038445335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-10589664638836825132020-06-20T07:54:19.839-04:002020-06-20T07:54:19.839-04:00Yes, but the religious are just as bad as the Woke...Yes, but the religious are just as bad as the Wokeists for this kind of nonsense. There are actual "Christian" universities in the US. A contradiction in terms. <br />He has been forced to resign from his admin position and kept his faculty position. I'm saying he should be able to keep his admin position and should give up his faculty position - if he thinks "souls" are Steven Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13898046706669437332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-51582967301395299912020-06-20T07:46:33.027-04:002020-06-20T07:46:33.027-04:00Darwinian evolution is survival of the fittest. Hu...Darwinian evolution is survival of the fittest. Humans stepped out of the circle some 10,000 years ago. Biologically we're at best at the same level, I'd say we're measurably worse. Intellectually ... well ... how would you place us?<br /><br />Labeling something as being in the process of degeneration first requires a metric with which to measure set of variables over time and secondOlmo Sirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12676046817371118267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-65097813201485318132020-06-20T07:22:25.247-04:002020-06-20T07:22:25.247-04:00Apart from communication problem pointed out by Dr...Apart from communication problem pointed out by Dr.Castaldo; after all we can't understand dolphins and they are carbon based lifeform from same planet, there's the incentive problem.<br /><br />First, it is quite obvious to me any sufficiently intelligent species will invariably switch to artificially created existence. Even if, in our terms, organic components make arbitrary portion of Olmo Sirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12676046817371118267noreply@blogger.com