tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post1358111135303941550..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: The End Of Theory?Sabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-77319828495248729642020-05-08T23:22:12.899-04:002020-05-08T23:22:12.899-04:00You're probably right about the worldwide pand...You're probably right about the worldwide pandemic thereAzureushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14424949138169801993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-83548281799520236832008-10-29T21:32:00.000-04:002008-10-29T21:32:00.000-04:00To me this "Google" approach is an extension to th...To me this "Google" approach is an extension to the cycle of knowledge.<BR/><BR/>Today's research is largely hypothesis-driven, which totally relies on pre-existing knowledge. The problem here: In this way nothing new can be discovered, because the answer is always already formulated in the question.<BR/><BR/>Then there is the non-hypothesis driven approach. Most great discoveries were actually cpaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01969644979751754916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-68745149353860754682008-07-29T08:22:00.000-04:002008-07-29T08:22:00.000-04:00A lot of interesting arguments, and yet it's very ...A lot of interesting arguments, and yet it's very simple why the Wired idea is wrong: it assumes that "the data are out there" - while in fact data result from how and where we look. It assumes that data drive hypotheses, and while this may be true to some degree, hypotheses drive what kind of data are collected.<BR/><BR/>Without a hypothesis, what are you going to measure in order to even Le Dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04826348308063467083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-41510019883894120932008-07-08T11:02:00.000-04:002008-07-08T11:02:00.000-04:00Wired is wrong,http://www.builtonfacts.com/2008/07...<I>Wired</I> is wrong,<BR/><BR/>http://www.builtonfacts.com/2008/07/08/approximately-a-power-series<BR/><BR/>"Picard’s great theorem guarantees that the limit will approach any given value depending on which direction you approach from."<BR/><BR/>Data will do you no good at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-92067053170381002732008-07-07T14:45:00.000-04:002008-07-07T14:45:00.000-04:00Hi Plato,“No 'Quantum Computer' will ever be able ...Hi Plato,<BR/><BR/>“No 'Quantum Computer' will ever be able to out perform a 'scaled up classical computer.'”<BR/><BR/>G.’t Hooft didn’t point out who told him that. In the best case (that it is scientifically justified statement) it is no-go type assertion which usually turns out to be wrong.<BR/><BR/>But O.K.,so what? The science is not a soccer or tennis championship. Let suppose for a moment Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-83454542090269899702008-07-07T12:09:00.000-04:002008-07-07T12:09:00.000-04:00Mmhh - I just got a subscription to Wired magazine...Mmhh - I just got a subscription to Wired magazine, and this article by Anderson (which in fact is on the cover) makes me wonder if this was such a good idea. Clearly Anderson understands very little about science.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-91918924005226685522008-07-06T22:01:00.000-04:002008-07-06T22:01:00.000-04:00Giotis,Now if this charater named "Data" has quant...Giotis,<BR/><BR/>Now if this charater named "Data" has quantum intelligence, not just digital intelligence, then he may indeed gain the upper hand over carbon-based intelligence. But if he's any reflection of a quantum computer, then he's got a ways to go before becoming a full-fledged member of reality.cynthiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01031186235906175633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-4007461025998510372008-07-06T18:57:00.000-04:002008-07-06T18:57:00.000-04:00Hi Neil“Curiously, there really can't be any "theo...Hi Neil<BR/><BR/>“Curiously, there really can't be any "theory" to show us a way if modal-realist type ideas (like Tegmark's) are really "true" - all descriptions exist, and we are just in the one that acts like this. There'd be no "reason why", no underlying "conceptual scheme" etc, there would only appear to be.”<BR/><BR/>If you are talking about hypothesis like many worlds, many universes or Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-9940773080641801152008-07-06T18:53:00.000-04:002008-07-06T18:53:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-29708700661646068382008-07-06T18:09:00.000-04:002008-07-06T18:09:00.000-04:00Curiously, there really can't be any "theory" to s...Curiously, there really can't be any "theory" to show us a way if modal-realist type ideas (like Tegmark's) are really "true" - all descriptions exist, and we are just in the one that acts like this. There'd be no "reason why", no underlying "conceptual scheme" etc, there would only appear to be.Neil Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04564859009749481136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-90522065055304529392008-07-06T16:44:00.000-04:002008-07-06T16:44:00.000-04:00...you just have to open your eyes:)Newton's Trans......you just have to <A HREF="http://bp0.blogger.com/_cldxKGOzgeM/R7khitdHDWI/AAAAAAAAAvY/ToVhuwtBABM/s400/sun2.GIF" REL="nofollow">open your eyes</A>:)<BR/><BR/><B>Newton's Translation of the Emerald Tablet</B><BR/><BR/><BR/> <I>It is true without lying, certain and most true. That which is Below is like that which is Above and that which is Above is like that which is Below to do the miraclesPlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-88198962029638057562008-07-06T05:05:00.000-04:002008-07-06T05:05:00.000-04:00Dear Stefan,Thanks for your interesting comment.th...Dear Stefan,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your interesting comment.<BR/><BR/><I>the interviewee was wondering who is responsible for the "kafkaesque" effects of globalisation, the inner workings of the stock market, or the rising prizes of oil and food, obviously convinced that there are actual people responsible for and steering all this... Here, models can tell us that this need not be the case.</I><BR/Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-78623001618478268572008-07-05T16:09:00.000-04:002008-07-05T16:09:00.000-04:00Plectics, by Murray Gellman It is appropriate t...<A HREF="http://www.santafe.edu/~mgm/plectics.html" REL="nofollow" TITLE="Let's Call It Plectics">Plectics</A>, by Murray Gellman<BR/><BR/> <I>It is appropriate that plectics refers to entanglement or the lack thereof, since entanglement is a key feature of the way complexity arises out of simplicity, making our subject worth studying.</I> <BR/><BR/>See <A HREF="http://www.santafe.edu/~mgm/" PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-88475484623072591452008-07-05T15:22:00.000-04:002008-07-05T15:22:00.000-04:00I like that Stefan continues to push the topic her...I like that Stefan continues to push the topic here.<BR/><BR/>Even though I see Hooft as jumping ship here on string theory, his work here can be highlighted in regards to what we see in use of our computers to assist SETI and LIGO operations from our desk tops.<BR/><BR/>I do not have to remind one of what neutrinos have accomplished in our views of the cosmos, or, how we perceive the cosmos, as PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-50848367766918938592008-07-05T10:42:00.000-04:002008-07-05T10:42:00.000-04:00Hi Bee,Come on! You remand me our D. Itzik, Speake...Hi Bee,<BR/><BR/>Come on! You remand me our D. Itzik, Speaker of the Knesset (to avoid misinterpretation – I consider her a remarkable individual, woman and politician).<BR/>Nige/Phil comments are 10^23 more interesting than Anderson's ideas.<BR/><BR/>Regards, Dany.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-44951093634635018502008-07-05T07:49:00.000-04:002008-07-05T07:49:00.000-04:00Hi Bee,“Would you please hold back on your elabora...Hi Bee,<BR/><BR/><BR/>“Would you please hold back on your elaborations about Archimedes? This isn't a discussion forum. I've written a post about Anderson's article (see top of the page), and I would really appreciate if you could stick with the topic.”<BR/><BR/>You are of course correct that there is little that relates Anderson’s thoughts on the future of science and Archimedes development of Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-27573938530950824122008-07-05T07:45:00.000-04:002008-07-05T07:45:00.000-04:00After eventually reading through the article, it s...After eventually reading through the article, it seems to me that there are two major points in Anderson's reasoning that are a bit inconsistent.<BR/><BR/>For example, when he says that "The new availability of huge amounts of data, along with the statistical tools to crunch these numbers, offers a whole new way of understanding the world.", I do not see how this is that different from what our stefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09495628046446378453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-42825126115897621592008-07-05T06:13:00.000-04:002008-07-05T06:13:00.000-04:00Nige: Would you please hold back on your elaborati...Nige: Would you please hold back on your elaborations about Archimedes? This isn't a discussion forum. I've written a post about Anderson's article (see top of the page), and I would really appreciate if you could stick with the topic. Thanks,<BR/>B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-26508267720341685712008-07-05T05:16:00.000-04:002008-07-05T05:16:00.000-04:00Hi nige,“E.g., if you look at Archimedes' proof of...<I>Hi nige,<BR/><BR/>“E.g., if you look at Archimedes' proof of buoyancy, it's entirely fact-based. There is no speculative assumption or speculative logic involved at all, so you don't need to test the results.”<BR/><BR/>Your interpretation is exactly the opposite of the actual story. It is the classical (ancient) example of the axiomatic top -> down deductive derivation made in the bath. nigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03402194253543690982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-12468505137619317602008-07-05T04:45:00.000-04:002008-07-05T04:45:00.000-04:00Hi Cynthia,Cynthia: "But I guess it's possible tha...Hi Cynthia,<BR/><BR/>Cynthia: "But I guess it's possible that we could evolve into silicon-based lifeforms, thus enabling us to uncover Nature with raw data alone".<BR/><BR/>Do you remember "Data" in Star Trek? Well guys at their thirties should remember him. He was an android that gradually developed human skills: emotions, imagination etc. Data had the ability to analyze vast amounts of data Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-49370486425196514212008-07-05T04:25:00.000-04:002008-07-05T04:25:00.000-04:00Hi Phil,Thank you very much for ref. But my God, i...Hi Phil,<BR/><BR/>Thank you very much for ref. But my God, it is 553 pages!<BR/><BR/>Hi Bee,<BR/><BR/>“would you please stick to the topic”<BR/><BR/>Bee, good morning! I will be glad to keep silent since I have no idea what the topic is.<BR/><BR/>Regards, Dany.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-56708962652954029532008-07-05T03:48:00.000-04:002008-07-05T03:48:00.000-04:00It's funny how people who don't really know what s...It's funny how people who don't really know what science is always try to attack the scientific method.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-37030275805610688672008-07-05T03:47:00.000-04:002008-07-05T03:47:00.000-04:00No problem. I just didn't want that pointless squa...No problem. I just didn't want that pointless squabble to go on forever. Get some sleep :-)<BR/><BR/>-B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-14444306220936284342008-07-05T03:45:00.000-04:002008-07-05T03:45:00.000-04:00Hi Bee,Yes, I am having one of those (rare) sleepl...Hi Bee,<BR/><BR/>Yes, I am having one of those (rare) sleepless nights. However, I’m going to finish my cup of tea and try and get a few more hours in. Also, once again my apologies for the drift off topic. <BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>PhilPhil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-70333356918266031162008-07-05T03:39:00.000-04:002008-07-05T03:39:00.000-04:00Hi Phil,Do you never sleep? I was about to say the...Hi Phil,<BR/><BR/>Do you never sleep? I was about to say the same -<BR/><BR/>Dany: I am absolutely not interested why you think Einstein wouldn't have been interested to talk to Bohr or whatever, so would you please stick to the topic, thanks.<BR/><BR/>-B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.com