tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post116213452440244883..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Diversity in ScienceSabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-17782935542500796772010-06-08T02:59:31.560-04:002010-06-08T02:59:31.560-04:00that is an amazing photo! everybody, go click on t...that is an amazing photo! everybody, go click on the link, there's more. great post!<br /><a href="http://www.ghostpapers.com/" rel="nofollow">Term papers</a>Term Papershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02145417264678061367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-17612045582542268192009-11-06T07:25:24.785-05:002009-11-06T07:25:24.785-05:00After a long time I see such a great post thanks f...After a long time I see such a great post thanks for sharing..!Term papershttp://www.ghostpapers.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-82560042722071653392008-10-25T18:52:00.000-04:002008-10-25T18:52:00.000-04:00Hi Russell,Yes, that's true. There is more narrowm...Hi Russell,<BR/><BR/>Yes, that's true. There is more narrowmindedness than what I've addressed here. In a certain way, this is one of the benefits of introducing 'measures' for scientific success - these measures don't care about personal dislikes and provide some objectivity. Unfortunately, though the intention might have been good, these measures develop a life on their own, and eventually onlySabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-46224477337669881532008-10-25T13:48:00.000-04:002008-10-25T13:48:00.000-04:00When I was considering physics long decades ago th...When I was considering physics long decades ago there seemed at first glance to be simply no place for anyone with a special gift for topology, ironically. So physics was out for me! At the lower levels of education in physics, there was no mention of anything having to do with topology, just then.<BR/><BR/>From the point of view of an outsider there are all sorts of trade-offs you don't mention Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10028133169012516129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-39589628567110439672008-02-25T14:00:00.000-05:002008-02-25T14:00:00.000-05:00Fascinating article. Earlier, I read a comment tha...Fascinating article. Earlier, I read a comment that implied that there was objectivity in science and that race should play no part in choosing scientists. This is an ironic combination of statements considering the the "Father of Modern Science," Sir Francis Bacon, and what he had to say about cultural influences and objectivity. The goal is not pure objectivity, but rather to recognize the Rodolfo John Alanizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15466671341557869485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162860527744067242006-11-06T19:48:00.000-05:002006-11-06T19:48:00.000-05:00Hi Chanda,what happened to 'bra talker'? Sorry for...Hi Chanda,<BR/><BR/>what happened to 'bra talker'? Sorry for the stupid comment above, I could have gotten it out of what you said that this is part of history. Anyway, I guess it tells a lot about my hopes for the future of our so-called civilization that I even consider it possible this was not so long ago. E.g. I know that there are 'Bruederschaften' (brotherhoods) on German Universities thatSabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162858551984855052006-11-06T19:15:00.000-05:002006-11-06T19:15:00.000-05:00Clarification!This was a policy that was institute...Clarification!<BR/><BR/>This was a policy that was instituted in the early 20th century. The same admissions process is used, but obviously admissions standards have evolved and changed.<BR/><BR/>I have a lot of problems with Harvard, but I would say that as far as encouraging diversity in the admissions process, they are a model for the rest of schools in its "league," especially public schools Chanda @ Disordered Cosmoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11462022695342468789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162825324141389912006-11-06T10:02:00.000-05:002006-11-06T10:02:00.000-05:00Hi Chanda,Sorry for the late reply. I've been kind...Hi Chanda,<BR/><BR/>Sorry for the late reply. I've been kind of distracted lately, and yesterday blogger decided to take a downtime the exact second I finished my answer. Which brings me again back to the question: where do dead comments go, and is this an information-loss problem?<BR/><BR/>Anyway, thanks for the story about Harvard. I am genuinely shocked! The root of the problem however seems Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162501749012144112006-11-02T16:09:00.000-05:002006-11-02T16:09:00.000-05:00The diversity in physics history:(1) Archimedes - ...The diversity in physics history:<BR/><BR/>(1) Archimedes - discovered principle of buoyancy in the bath, was killed when he ordered an enemy soldier to keep away from his circles in the sand.<BR/><BR/>(2) Kepler - he was an astrologer, his mother was arrested for witchcraft. He claimed Earth is attracted to sun by magnetism, and claimed that the planets make music as they orbit the sun in a nigehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03402194253543690982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162483971656795702006-11-02T11:12:00.000-05:002006-11-02T11:12:00.000-05:00Just wanted to add this link here for more perspec...Just wanted to add <A HREF="http://eskesthai.blogspot.com/2006/11/understanding-tonal.html" REL="nofollow">this link</A> here for more perspective on my comment previously.<BR/><BR/>If one sees the "color wheel," in a different way, one may see a "little differently" then?PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162477592516912762006-11-02T09:26:00.000-05:002006-11-02T09:26:00.000-05:00Hi Quasar,Thanks for letting me know about CBI's b...Hi Quasar,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for letting me know about CBI's birthday! No, I must have missed it, I've been kind of distracted lately. That's actually a good suggestion, I could indeed send her some version of that 'paper'. <BR/><BR/>It's not really a paper though, just a writeup from a talk I gave at the SUSY. I realized after posting that by cutting 20 pages down to 4, I ended up with only 1 Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162471321778321622006-11-02T07:42:00.000-05:002006-11-02T07:42:00.000-05:00Hi Bee,you know Christine Dantas is celebrating th...Hi Bee,<BR/>you know Christine Dantas is celebrating the first anniversary<BR/>of CBI Christine's Background Independent...<BR/><BR/>and has invited submissions for guest posts for 3rd Nov on her blog<BR/><BR/>You may have missed the deadline, for entries 1200 GMT 02 Nov 2006, but I'm sure she would make an exception if you wanted her to post <BR/>http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0611017<BR/><BR/>QUASAR9https://www.blogger.com/profile/00593390598251093182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162470987203530882006-11-02T07:36:00.000-05:002006-11-02T07:36:00.000-05:00Hi Bee, great postDiverse diversitiesDiverse theor...Hi Bee, great post<BR/>Diverse diversities<BR/>Diverse theories<BR/>Diverse opinions<BR/>Diverse realities<BR/>Diverse dimensions? universes?<BR/>Diversity of lifeforms<BR/>Fiversity of lifestyles<BR/>Diversity of disciplines (academia)<BR/>Diversity of colours<BR/>Diversity of wavelengthsQUASAR9https://www.blogger.com/profile/00593390598251093182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162332048573973252006-10-31T17:00:00.000-05:002006-10-31T17:00:00.000-05:00Hi B,Thanks for your response. I agree in theory t...Hi B,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your response. I agree in theory that we need to judge people purely on their scientific talent, but that's hard for a variety of reasons.<BR/><BR/>Do we test people? Well the problem with tests is that statistically women and minorities do worse on math/physics exams than white men. Taken on face value, this just means that I should be a lot worse at physics than my Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162314436325680222006-10-31T12:07:00.000-05:002006-10-31T12:07:00.000-05:00Science is one of the few areas in culture that ou...Science is one of the few areas in culture that ought to remain unconditionally color-blind. To do otherwise would be to unwisely place science upon an anthropomorphically-driven, not to mention, racially-driven landscape.<BR/><BR/>To impose such a reckless policy upon the landscape of science will only lead to the denigration of the scientific method. More specifically, to inject the "race card"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162293381231816212006-10-31T06:16:00.000-05:002006-10-31T06:16:00.000-05:00Hi fh,Also:"You're a physicist, no? The sink is cl...Hi fh,<BR/><BR/><I>Also:<BR/>"You're a physicist, no? The sink is clogged again! Fix it!" </I><BR/><BR/>*lol*<BR/><BR/>You know what: become a postdoc in the US, and you'll have to learn quite a lot you'd never have thought about. Maybe I've just bad luck, but ever since I left Europe, I've constantly had problems with the plumbing in my apartments. By now I know what to do when the sink is Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162292568668948102006-10-31T06:02:00.000-05:002006-10-31T06:02:00.000-05:00Hi Chanda,thanks for your comment. A clarification...Hi Chanda,<BR/><BR/>thanks for your comment. A clarification:<BR/><BR/><I>I don't think I ever explicitly say that I know for a fact that demographic diversity will change ideas. But much as I don't know that it will, you don't know that it won't. I think this is a really important thing to recognize.</I><BR/><BR/>No, you didn't, and I didn't explicitly say you did. In case it came across as suchSabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162291276558033282006-10-31T05:41:00.000-05:002006-10-31T05:41:00.000-05:00Hi Arun:If you do, I should teach you the secret h...Hi Arun:<BR/><BR/><I>If you do, I should teach you the secret handshake of the camaraderie of ex-physicists :)</I><BR/><BR/>Thanks :-)) <BR/>I'll keep that in mind! <BR/><BR/>Sometimes I think tough that's all just a conspiracy. One day, I'll get a call that says: Look, we've finally decided to accept you into the inner circle. Here's the deal: we've found the TOE already 20 years ago, and Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162290156689642462006-10-31T05:22:00.000-05:002006-10-31T05:22:00.000-05:00Hi B, I appreciate you posting a response to my bl...Hi B, <BR/><BR/>I appreciate you posting a response to my blog. I've been thinking about it for a day now. Here are a few thoughts that have come up in that process.<BR/><BR/>I don't think I ever explicitly say that I know for a fact that demographic diversity will change ideas. But much as I don't know that it will, you don't know that it won't. I think this is a really important thing to Chanda @ Disordered Cosmoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11462022695342468789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162278099962440542006-10-31T02:01:00.000-05:002006-10-31T02:01:00.000-05:00If you do, I should teach you the secret handshake...<I>If you do, I should teach you the secret handshake of the camaraderie of ex-physicists...</I><BR/><BR/>Ohh! How come I don't know the secret handshake. I've been an ex-physicist several times.Keahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05652514294703722285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162219577001561002006-10-30T09:46:00.000-05:002006-10-30T09:46:00.000-05:00In regards to the picture...I used it in relation ...In regards to the picture...I used it in relation to illustrate a point as well<BR/><BR/><I>Sometimes we might need visual aids. So, I thought I would add this in relation to the question, on how would we see these dimensions, if we accept the gravitons in the bulk? <B>Aug 7, 2004 3:46 pm</B></I><BR/><BR/>Whether it's right or not, I was trying to make sense of theoretical ideas<BR/><BR/>EqualityPlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162179647253982892006-10-29T22:40:00.000-05:002006-10-29T22:40:00.000-05:00Footnote 5: I had a similar reaction. Though in m...Footnote 5: I had a similar reaction. Though in my case, I was happy I had left physics. But, Bee, I hope you don't leave physics. <BR/><BR/>(If you do, I should teach you the secret handshake of the camaraderie of ex-physicists :) )Arunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162163778808529012006-10-29T18:16:00.000-05:002006-10-29T18:16:00.000-05:00On another note, it's also clear that demographic ...On another note, it's also clear that demographic diversity, which usually implies cultural differences, and job-related diversity coincide a lot stronger in the humanities, the cultural science side of the university.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162163086438959122006-10-29T18:04:00.000-05:002006-10-29T18:04:00.000-05:00Great post! I was going to reply about that very p...Great post! I was going to reply about that very point over at CV but never got around to it.<BR/><BR/>Also:<BR/>"You're a physicist, no? The sink is clogged again! Fix it!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1162162302403611302006-10-29T17:51:00.000-05:002006-10-29T17:51:00.000-05:00that is an amazing photo! everybody, go click on t...that is an amazing photo! everybody, go click on the link, there's more. great post!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com