tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post8583471891231658640..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: CommunicationSabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-57141216863180273042007-11-25T20:29:00.000-05:002007-11-25T20:29:00.000-05:00As you write "All that exciting talk about the Web...As you write "All that exciting talk about the Web2.0 looks to me like exchanging information about exchanging information", I may want to add one more indirection.<BR/><BR/>Indeed, if web 2.0 is about meta-information, then that talk about it is exchange of information about exchange of information about exchange of information.<BR/><BR/>And in the strong sense, I would pretty much characterize Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-80574577066331692192007-10-06T13:40:00.000-04:002007-10-06T13:40:00.000-04:00Once you start on a subject does it really ever en...Once you start on a subject does it really ever end?:)<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>Were it Perfect, Would it Work Better?</B>-<I>Bruno Bassi</I><BR/><BR/> <A HREF="http://www.brunobassi.it/scritti/lincos.html" REL="nofollow"> 5.1. Communication vs Formalization<BR/><BR/> The idea of applying achievements from symbolic logic to the design of a complete language is deeply linked to a strong criticism PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-24739195808432103982007-10-06T08:18:00.000-04:002007-10-06T08:18:00.000-04:00Dear Christine:Nice to hear from you. Thanks. I so...Dear Christine:<BR/><BR/>Nice to hear from you. Thanks. I sometimes think we're all just way too busy (<I>...no time...</I>)<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-20951685873935486382007-10-05T12:33:00.000-04:002007-10-05T12:33:00.000-04:00[Y]our message can be heard, but only by a few... ...[Y]our message can be heard, but only by a few... That's human nature...<BR/><BR/>[E]very post of you is cleverly written, but there must be someone on the other side in some kind of harmony with you to get it through.<BR/><BR/>[S]ome day I wish I can better communicate my ideas. Only a few can hear me. Sometimes even I can't hear myself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-59212052897766789582007-10-02T19:38:00.000-04:002007-10-02T19:38:00.000-04:00Dear Bee,When I come across an incomprehensible co...Dear Bee,<BR/><BR/>When I come across an incomprehensible comment on a blog, that too, not by anon. but by a named person, I assume it is a coded private communication and move on.Arunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-19440626193603881132007-10-02T19:21:00.000-04:002007-10-02T19:21:00.000-04:00Dear Stefan:I knew I could count on you... It's le...Dear Stefan:<BR/><BR/>I knew I could count on you... It's less a riddle than an experiment on the willingness of the reader to get the message of the writer. Well. It's always nice to be confirmed (<I>"the actual information exchange fails in many instances"</I>, <I>"What characterizes our century is not communication, but trying to get attention"</I>) but I didn't expect it to be so depressing. Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-32876529730193286522007-10-02T17:54:00.000-04:002007-10-02T17:54:00.000-04:00Oh no, all of a sudden all these strange captializ...Oh no, all of a sudden all these strange captialized comments start to make sense! And maybe it's not by chance that the first guy to understand the hidden message uses his own blog to post mathematica codes that solve the New Scientist "enigmas"!<BR/><BR/>Of course, you usually don't use <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial" REL="nofollow">initials</A>, and insert headlines in between stefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09495628046446378453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-52906325745628442892007-10-02T11:49:00.000-04:002007-10-02T11:49:00.000-04:00Klaus:And how about entanglement? a useful means o...<B>Klaus</B>:<I>And how about entanglement? a useful means of comunication or not?</I><BR/><BR/>I was just responding to Arun's,"<I>If I may - about information</I>"<BR/><BR/>I had to go back through the comments to understand possibly "what the question" was being put forward?<BR/><BR/>Getting "ribbed for a perspective about E8"....hmmmmm.<BR/><BR/>Don't mind me:)PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-7205647897293715772007-10-01T21:12:00.000-04:002007-10-01T21:12:00.000-04:00If I may - about information, not communication. ...If I may - about information, not communication. It always seemed to me that e.g., statements like "Bell-type quantum correlations cannot transport information faster than the speed of light", and so on in various physical situations, the result is established in a ad hoc sort of way. Is there some more general way of seeing this kind of result?Arunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-4794257858135683802007-10-01T17:39:00.000-04:002007-10-01T17:39:00.000-04:00"PS: Where on Earth have these great photos on you...<EM>"PS: Where on Earth have these great photos on your website been taken? <BR/><BR/>PPS: Of course, the "on Earth" in the PS has a double meaning. I wonder if this gets as clear in this written form as it would be if I had said it?"</EM><BR/><BR/>lol Stefan, and if you'd said "those photos are Out of This world" <BR/>I agree - great photos.QUASAR9https://www.blogger.com/profile/00593390598251093182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-57137844142108545862007-10-01T17:01:00.000-04:002007-10-01T17:01:00.000-04:00Bee said,"I thought you meant to point me towards ...Bee said,"<I>I thought you meant to point me towards simulations of facial expressions.</I><BR/><BR/>Yes of course. I do not see a difference, between the emotive states that arise from music, facial expressions, and what we are wearing emotively on our sleeve.<BR/><BR/>A tear can go through a long emotive sequence played over in the mind, yet it is a physiological consequence that we have this PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-46390373298493884722007-10-01T16:52:00.000-04:002007-10-01T16:52:00.000-04:00Hi Kaleberg,Give it to me in writing. Let me think...Hi Kaleberg,<BR/><BR/><I>Give it to me in writing. Let me think about my response. I'll understand you better, and you'll understand me better.</I><BR/><BR/>I can fully subscribe to that. The point is, in my opinion, if you engage in such a written communication, it is clear from the beginning that you try to find a clear, unambigous wording, and think carefully about what you write, and how. stefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09495628046446378453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-58630385115285138752007-10-01T10:55:00.000-04:002007-10-01T10:55:00.000-04:00Hi Plato:Argh, the guy looks so creepy, I thought ...Hi Plato:<BR/><BR/>Argh, the guy looks so creepy, I thought you meant to point me towards simulations of facial expressions. You definitely have a point there, in many regards other means of communication (music, painting etc) are much more powerful and more universally applicable than the written word. Best,<BR/><BR/>B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-49530316599566800182007-10-01T10:33:00.000-04:002007-10-01T10:33:00.000-04:00Hi Bee,I've been wondering for some while whatever...Hi Bee,<BR/><BR/><I>I've been wondering for some while whatever will happen to the movie industry once they can build up characters entirely on the computer.</I><BR/><BR/>I actually wanted to show you what music can do to invoke facial expression. To me, emotively there is a connect at a subtle level inside us to how music changes us.<BR/><BR/>While they are doing this in a computerized setting PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-67127295167558051832007-10-01T09:49:00.000-04:002007-10-01T09:49:00.000-04:00Dear Christophe:You are of course correct. I am aw...Dear Christophe:<BR/><BR/>You are of course correct. I am aware that pictures and headlines improve the readability of my writings, I have been doing this regularly all the time -- try a random post from the sidebar, e.g. <A HREF="http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2007/03/science-and-democracy-iii.html" REL="nofollow">this</A> or <A HREF="http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2006/09/Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-31434574307686116652007-10-01T09:36:00.000-04:002007-10-01T09:36:00.000-04:00Bee wrote: Getting a message across in little word...Bee wrote: <EM>Getting a message across in little words is not always possible, and even if, it requires a talent for writing that not everybody has.</EM><BR/><BR/><B>Pictures are good</B>:<BR/>First, the idea of using pictures (of yourself, of apples) is great. You do that regularly now, and I think it's very helpful in making a long post more readable.<BR/><BR/><B>Adding headlines?</B><BR/>Christophe de Dinechinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15212549796119667462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-39815820219694258972007-10-01T08:41:00.000-04:002007-10-01T08:41:00.000-04:00Hi Plato:Thanks, this is definitely interesting. F...Hi Plato:<BR/><BR/>Thanks, this is definitely interesting. For whatever reason I find the movie really scary, the guy is totally zombie like. I've been wondering for some while whatever will happen to the movie industry once they can build up characters entirely on the computer. I have never been a fan of animation movies, so I'm not looking forward to drown in a sea of virtually real movies Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-8023089746684026742007-10-01T08:31:00.000-04:002007-10-01T08:31:00.000-04:00Dear Arun, dear Paul:Thanks for lending me your ea...Dear Arun, dear Paul:<BR/><BR/>Thanks for lending me your ear :-) This comment section was meant as kind of an experiment, but I didn't expect so little people would read the previous comments. It's kind of depressing, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>Hi Ingvar,<BR/><BR/>I made the mistake to look at your website, congrats for re-introducing the aether. Nothing of what you write makes any sense, and btw (in Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-74481558364943240152007-10-01T00:46:00.000-04:002007-10-01T00:46:00.000-04:00Kaleberg: for visual cues in conversation, I've ne...Kaleberg: <I>for visual cues in conversation, I've never figured out how to use them. I know that if someone looks you straight in the eye, they are lying, but beyond that I can only guess. I can interpret tone of voice relatively well, but it is HARD work. Long phone conversations are exhausting. Give it to me in writing. Let me think about my response. I'll understand you better, and you'll amaragrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15769062084934190681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-70877836543528879082007-09-30T22:23:00.000-04:002007-09-30T22:23:00.000-04:00Hi ingvar astrand, thanks for the link.My argument...Hi ingvar astrand, <BR/>thanks for the link.<BR/>My argument was based more around the fact that if the universe is said to be expanding and even accelerating because 'dark energy' is pushing galaxies outward, and said 'dark energy' is between the galaxies, then there should be no galaxy pile-ups. Do we need to summon 'dark energy' from the big bang - and if 'dark energy' grows or has grown - QUASAR9https://www.blogger.com/profile/00593390598251093182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-222643248018108052007-09-30T22:09:00.000-04:002007-09-30T22:09:00.000-04:00I was thinking about the facial expressions it thr...I was thinking about the facial expressions it threw me back to a conversation about that.<BR/><BR/>While doing a search for those same pictures I came across <A HREF="http://dipaola.org/musicface/danceface1.mov" REL="nofollow">this</A> and found it pretty interesting? It's taken from <A HREF="http://ivizlab.sfu.ca/research/musicface/#1" REL="nofollow">here</A>.<BR/><BR/>You see a lot of PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-13404134943506652602007-09-30T21:42:00.000-04:002007-09-30T21:42:00.000-04:00Quasar and Bee,It is not the universe that is expa...Quasar and Bee,<BR/><BR/>It is not the universe that is expanding – it is the galaxies’ radiation that is expanding!<BR/>So you don’t need dark energy.<BR/>This is the entropy effect (that Clausius’ searched but never found) which forces radiation towards equivalence.<BR/><BR/>Hubble discovered that the galaxy-radiations’ spectral lines are displaced proportional to their distance.<BR/>The only Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-29969862560587855112007-09-30T19:53:00.000-04:002007-09-30T19:53:00.000-04:00There is something to communications. I recently r...There is something to communications. I recently read an article in Science on the big brain mystery. Why do animals develop big brains? Interestingly, larger brained animals, be they birds, reptiles or mammals are more likely to be monogamous. That's something that takes serious communication, and it seems to have some payoffs. (Yeah, I'm a hopeless romantic).<BR/><BR/>As for visual cues in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-75670758939902993872007-09-30T19:12:00.000-04:002007-09-30T19:12:00.000-04:00smart, very smart - too bad the lady is already ma...smart, very smart - too bad the lady is already married... ;-)<BR/><BR/>ps: i too love emoticons B-)<BR/><BR/>http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall/smileys.html<BR/><BR/>pps: great blogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-71903219277992187822007-09-30T18:54:00.000-04:002007-09-30T18:54:00.000-04:00"If I had the time I would use something different...<EM>"If I had the time I would use something different, maybe mingle it together with my homepage or so (e.g. I wish there was a 'sort by' option, or something like an index, or a possibility to order posts in sections and subsections etc)."</EM><BR/><BR/>I guess 'sort by' is what Tags and Labels are meant to do. You could just add the blog to your homepage<BR/><BR/>PS - There are some blogs QUASAR9https://www.blogger.com/profile/00593390598251093182noreply@blogger.com