tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post7952841086961470116..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Fact or Fiction?Sabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger94125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-84263564897518995842007-12-08T10:55:00.000-05:002007-12-08T10:55:00.000-05:00which paper? Look, this thread is about scientific...which paper? Look, this thread is about scientific journalism. I usually make an effort to explain in my papers exactly which assumptions go into my models, so I found your comment rather inappropriate. I don't see why I should bother with anonymously made insults or criticism on my work without any content.<BR/><BR/>B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-65549172784633109642007-12-08T09:14:00.000-05:002007-12-08T09:14:00.000-05:00HAHA,bee, what's the matter, you don't see ?I was ...HAHA,bee, what's the matter, you don't see ?<BR/><BR/>I was hoping you could explain your paper to me... you know- like you would your grandmother...<BR/>ah well, best, as allways,<BR/>A.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-62281071025292747072007-12-05T21:03:00.000-05:002007-12-05T21:03:00.000-05:00But I find this careless advertising very inapprop...<I>But I find this careless advertising very inappropriate on a science blog.</I><BR/><BR/>Dear Bee, me too. I wonder if they have control of the class of advertisements that appear on the blog or not. Anyway the world seems to have far too many ways to whittle away at one's integrity.Arunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-80234755381946543752007-12-05T12:57:00.000-05:002007-12-05T12:57:00.000-05:00Dear Arun:While we're at it, there is something el...Dear Arun:<BR/><BR/>While we're at it, there is something else that I find funny because it goes into the same direction as my concerns I mentioned above. Look at the advertisements CV or Lubos or other science blogs have in their side bar. I mean, let me just copy the first I came across there today<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.UniversalBelief.com/home.htm" REL="nofollow">www.UniversalBelief.comSabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-52478131937368092942007-12-05T08:38:00.000-05:002007-12-05T08:38:00.000-05:00Dear Arun:Thanks for these interesting details... ...Dear Arun:<BR/>Thanks for these interesting details... Maybe you are right that the USA are already too detached from reality. On the other hand it is often the case that things have to go really wrong before they can get better. So in this regard it might be that it won't be Canada and Europe who first see the need to act. Best,<BR/><BR/>B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-2514294811709476252007-12-05T00:30:00.000-05:002007-12-05T00:30:00.000-05:00One way would be e.g. what I suggested earlier: a ...<I>One way would be e.g. what I suggested earlier: a right for information, which would simply speaking state that avoidable confusion is unlawful because it acts against the society's interests.</I><BR/><BR/>Dear Bee,<BR/><BR/>In the US, the Florida Appeals Court has already ruled that a news organization has no obligation to provide the truth.<BR/><BR/>(The case basically was that Murdoch's FoxArunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-30826322602921295442007-12-05T00:22:00.000-05:002007-12-05T00:22:00.000-05:00Dear Bee:This is how bad things have gotten in the...Dear Bee:<BR/><BR/>This is how bad things have gotten in the US regarding political/government news:<BR/><BR/>Joe Klein, political columnist for the Time Magazine, the news magazine with the widest circulation in the US, wrote a column with some false and politically provocative statements about legislation that is in front of Congress that would put some curbs on the illegal wiretapping this Arunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-17256962486036112312007-12-03T10:54:00.000-05:002007-12-03T10:54:00.000-05:00"One way would be e.g. what I suggested earlier: a..."One way would be e.g. what I suggested earlier: a right for information, which would simply speaking state that avoidable confusion is unlawful because it acts against the society's interests. A better way though would be to governmentally support science journalism."<BR/><BR/>Perhaps democracy in Canada is far more enlightened that it is in the US, but I shudder to think of how difficult it graydbahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06279112776182794928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-8337138700075627162007-12-02T19:27:00.000-05:002007-12-02T19:27:00.000-05:00Hi arivero:I am very much in favour of this. Best,...Hi arivero:<BR/><BR/>I am very much in favour of this. Best,<BR/><BR/>B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-49768596936029053442007-12-02T19:17:00.000-05:002007-12-02T19:17:00.000-05:00Perhaps we should become militant about upgrading ...Perhaps we should become militant about upgrading from monkeys to humans. No more vulgarization, but team working instead.Alejandro Riverohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16181521111080562335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-19177227898324900232007-12-02T17:51:00.000-05:002007-12-02T17:51:00.000-05:00Dear Arun:To me this is just another example that ...Dear Arun:<BR/><BR/>To me this is just another example that illuminates how insufficient it is to trust in monetarism. It is in the interest of the public to obtain truthful and informative reporting. I think we both agree that the present way of funding it is a disaster for reasons that are completely obvious, and that are very well documented in the article you link to. This is a case where Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-32920206658414901092007-12-01T17:04:00.000-05:002007-12-01T17:04:00.000-05:00Dear Bee,My question really is - how could science...Dear Bee,<BR/><BR/>My question really is - how could science journalism hope to be immune from "feeding the monkey"? <BR/><BR/>IMO, high quality reporting and writing has not enough of an appreciative audience to meet the demands for revenue growth at the big media conglomerates. It is a speciality market and a precarious niche at that. But there may be enough of a market for it to be quite Arunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-49012713639501306132007-12-01T16:10:00.000-05:002007-12-01T16:10:00.000-05:00Dear Arun:Thanks, that is a very insightful piece ...Dear Arun:<BR/><BR/>Thanks, that is a very insightful piece of writing, though I think he overuses pictorial speech. Yes, if one extrapolates the general trend in our society ('feeding the monkey' 'for toothpaste and sneaker ads to ride on straight into the brains of the stupefied public', as he puts it), then it is very unsurprising this development reflects in science. <BR/><BR/>Why should Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-82891432752618136342007-12-01T14:50:00.000-05:002007-12-01T14:50:00.000-05:00Dear Bee,Somehow I think this following is connect...Dear Bee,<BR/><BR/>Somehow I think this following is connected to this commentary on the state of journalism - to make the connection, simply ask the question, why should science journalism be immune from this diagnosis?<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.nypress.com/17/26/news&columns/MattTaibbi.cfm" REL="nofollow">http://www.nypress.com/17/26/news&columns/MattTaibbi.cfm</A><BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/>-ArunArunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-64986393450555425952007-11-29T13:46:00.000-05:002007-11-29T13:46:00.000-05:00bee said:Sure, hiding the flaws of renormalization...bee said:<BR/>Sure, hiding the flaws of renormalization is the purpose of my being. <BR/><BR/>hehe, touche.<BR/>A.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-91396389937302337482007-11-28T20:52:00.000-05:002007-11-28T20:52:00.000-05:00I went over to http://help.blogger.com/?page=wishl...I went over to http://help.blogger.com/?page=wishlist, and wrote that it would be nice to have a "collapse comment to a stub" option for moderately unpleasant, not so nasty that they should be deleted, comments, so that a reader can choose to expand the message if they want to, but the bloggers displeasure is apparent without being as apparently vindictive as outright deletion. Unsurprising that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-23542365705594176962007-11-28T18:49:00.000-05:002007-11-28T18:49:00.000-05:00hi rillian: thanks. I do appreciate corrections :-...hi rillian: thanks. I do appreciate corrections :-) - B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-39328347882686572182007-11-28T18:22:00.000-05:002007-11-28T18:22:00.000-05:00tyler: I would disagree that /. has proved no auto...tyler: I would disagree that /. has proved no automated moderation system could work. Some of the <A HREF="http://www.trustlet.org/wiki/Trust_Metrics_Evaluation_project" REL="nofollow">trust metrics</A> would be easy to apply to an arxiv forum, which already has a database of identities and citations. While they've not been tested on a large scale (unless you count Google's search ranking) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-60870080801852024132007-11-28T14:41:00.000-05:002007-11-28T14:41:00.000-05:00D R,in contrast to another anonymous expert, I am ...D R,<BR/><BR/><BR/>in contrast to another anonymous expert, I am well aware that Cooperstock is a respected astrophysicist with training in GR. I was not aware that the comment was by you (though I could have noted your signature), nor that you are a relativist by training. I understand that you have encountered, say, strong opposition to your work from your fellow scientist, which puts your stefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09495628046446378453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-88823763229570257332007-11-28T13:56:00.000-05:002007-11-28T13:56:00.000-05:00Hi Bee, I have.And I know what you meant by hobbyI...Hi Bee, I have.<BR/>And I know what you meant by hobby<BR/><BR/>I was simply adding to your reply to anonymous seven steps back, who asked nine steps back: <EM>"so, what is it that motivates a person with only amateur or hobby level knowledge of a subject to imagine that he knows better than trained professionals with years or decades of experience in the field?"</EM>QUASAR9https://www.blogger.com/profile/00593390598251093182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-30045090069230486682007-11-28T13:32:00.000-05:002007-11-28T13:32:00.000-05:00bee, the most advanced moderation system in place ...bee, the most advanced moderation system in place I know if is slashdot's - though they sadly still allow anonymous cowards - and though the moderation system is relatively sophisticated its success is questionable. I do find it useful, as I set my threshold for comment viewing at about "+2"...but then you have to trust the wisdom of the crowds. In the case of arxiv, you'd have to trust the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-47205284129724814202007-11-28T10:57:00.000-05:002007-11-28T10:57:00.000-05:00Hi Quasar: You too, please read my above reply to ...Hi Quasar: <BR/><BR/>You too, please read my <A HREF="http://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985" REL="nofollow">above reply to Javier</A> clarifying what I mean with hobby. Had I known that the word would broadly be interpreted to have a different meaning than the one I attach to it, I would have used a different formulation. So, I am sorry about that confusion. Best,<BR/><BR/>B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-35842991552984091322007-11-28T10:51:00.000-05:002007-11-28T10:51:00.000-05:00Hi Peter:The point is to ask who should control th...Hi Peter:<BR/><BR/>The point is to ask who should control the commenting system? I don't think it should be a) one single person and b) neither the person who raises the initial criticism, nor the person writing the paper. Also, it would only be persons registered at the arxiv who could comment, and they would do so with their real name, something that hardly happens in the blogosphere and is (Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-27546121227789485112007-11-28T10:41:00.000-05:002007-11-28T10:41:00.000-05:00Bee wrote: “The reasons why I would prefer [a comm...Bee wrote: “The reasons why I would prefer [a commenting system on ArXiv] over blogs are as mentioned: blog posts can be edited later which can potentially obscure discussions, blogs are usually run by one person who can delete and/or modify comments (depending on the software used), blogs are often subject to a lot of uninformed background noise.”<BR/><BR/>A commenting system on ArXiv would be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-18928171360634629462007-11-28T09:10:00.000-05:002007-11-28T09:10:00.000-05:00"so, what is it that motivates a person with only ...<EM>"so, what is it that motivates a person with only amateur or hobby level knowledge of a subject to imagine that he knows better than trained professionals with years or decades of experience in the field?"</EM><BR/><BR/>Technically speaking Einstein was an amateur bobbyist to start with. His day job was the patents office?<BR/><BR/>But he read material, and clearly had some 'valid' insights QUASAR9https://www.blogger.com/profile/00593390598251093182noreply@blogger.com