tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post7231752493873779068..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Do we live in a computer simulation?Sabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger119125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-47869994550251901862019-08-12T01:20:57.979-04:002019-08-12T01:20:57.979-04:00Dr Castaldo,
Thanks for pointing out, I have corr...Dr Castaldo,<br /><br />Thanks for pointing out, I have corrected this. Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1341537730407501692019-08-11T13:13:07.846-04:002019-08-11T13:13:07.846-04:00Friendly Neighborhood Copy Edit: In two places you...Friendly Neighborhood Copy Edit: In two places you say "cramp up" when you mean "ramp up" (the latter is the English expression for "significantly increase").<br /><br />Also, "scrape it", at least in America, is "scrap it". (leftover pieces of metal were called "scrap", and thrown on a pile to be melted down and recast). But I notice Dr. A.M. Castaldohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17988116835722393503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-8269884218843160652019-08-11T05:40:49.562-04:002019-08-11T05:40:49.562-04:00Having worked in the area of computer simulations ...Having worked in the area of computer simulations (used for training systems), I can't help feeling that really wonder whether these discussions are sustained through collective narcissism and delusion as to how crude human computer simulations really are.<br />Perhaps we need to acknowledge the pitfalls of becoming preoccupied with a question that leads to an 'number of angels on a JKNMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11779607271869750628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-12057540865445186242016-04-08T21:34:08.467-04:002016-04-08T21:34:08.467-04:00Is there any way for the person in simulation leve...Is there any way for the person in simulation level L to tell whether or not the people who are simulating them from level L+1 are running them with some amount of slowdown? That is to say, can computation limits be mitigated by just slowing down the render speed for the simulated level below them? It seems to me that in this case as computational demand goes to infinity, time stops for the Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08733312103679115141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-8412032620222188112016-04-08T09:03:28.264-04:002016-04-08T09:03:28.264-04:00Chuck,
I must have repeated this several dozen ti...Chuck,<br /><br />I must have repeated this several dozen times by now: this paper doesn't test whether we live in a simulation, it tests for Lorentz-invariance simulation. If The Programmer isn't smart enough to code for Lorentz-invariance, then, yes, this tests whether we live in a simulation. But that's quite a stretch. Best,<br /><br />B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-43835981418899396812016-04-08T08:14:33.915-04:002016-04-08T08:14:33.915-04:00A way to test this?
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1210.184...A way to test this?<br /><br />http://arxiv.org/pdf/1210.1847.pdfChuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16478912855855043584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-32882245220332509212015-11-03T23:01:07.618-05:002015-11-03T23:01:07.618-05:00I think that if there were a super advanced race o...I think that if there were a super advanced race of people, they would he offspring with blank brains, like us. So, wouldn't it be much faster to download a moral, logical, and creative operating system for a blank brain? Christianity matrix style. The world is a test, I used to party a liked doing some drugs. Now I realize that I was just preoccupying my mind with something that doesn't Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00560847233363409171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-50839583520718372482015-09-20T05:51:05.332-04:002015-09-20T05:51:05.332-04:00Computer has more influence in our life and now we...Computer has more influence in our life and now we cannot live and survive without it. I agree with your statement "If you just assume the simulation that we might live in has us perfectly fooled and we can never find out if there is any deeper level of reality, it becomes rather pointless to even think about it."Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00973108815676340809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-19940719188351128862015-06-30T12:42:29.717-04:002015-06-30T12:42:29.717-04:00Oh the futility of atheism.
Many scholars in rec...Oh the futility of atheism. <br /><br />Many scholars in recent years have been trying to explain the behavior of Christ' disciples. Fully accepted now is that the disciples did believe they saw Jesus alive, which in turn is the only way to explain their diabolical message of loving you enemies and eventually allowing them to torture and kill them-all the while never denying that Christ was John Burgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06021462296956618398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-82733388881115363872015-04-25T02:18:33.487-04:002015-04-25T02:18:33.487-04:00I believe the earth is the computer that projects ...I believe the earth is the computer that projects the simulations,any thing that grows is loading in real time untill complete and recieves energy via wireless by harnessing the energy of the sun or some other energy source yet unknown. forget 8 core we run on earth core lol.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-51564402173700751402015-01-29T16:34:46.577-05:002015-01-29T16:34:46.577-05:00I love this paper http://arxiv.org/pdf/0801.0337.p...I love this paper http://arxiv.org/pdf/0801.0337.pdf on The Physical World As A Virtual Reality from Brian Withworth, already in 2007. Great read and touching many subjects. It al started with someone hitting !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-27458590419097271502015-01-17T17:26:53.086-05:002015-01-17T17:26:53.086-05:00Alice,
We correlate.
Our contribution to the Uni...Alice,<br /><br />We correlate.<br /><br />Our contribution to the Unitary.<br /><br /><br />Non-unitary effects notwithstanding.<br /><br />Bob<br /><br />ps. Don't mind Otto being funny.<br /><br />pps. Al decide. Unitary or not.<br /><br />ppps. Great comments all around.hushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16176588791118304829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-60361379844691164372015-01-17T13:25:21.944-05:002015-01-17T13:25:21.944-05:00As a computer scientist, I find this assumption co...As a computer scientist, I find this assumption completly ridiculous if it is not only used to demonstrate that it is impossible to distinguish between a Turing equivalent universe and a not-Turing equivalent universe and therefore the only valid scientific position is to assert that the universe is Turing equivalent. It is time for physicists to understand that logic is purely transcendental Nicolas Pouparthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17722878242014554884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-53067543884591271322015-01-15T23:08:01.930-05:002015-01-15T23:08:01.930-05:00Sure, we live in a simulation. The reason you can&...Sure, we live in a simulation. The reason you can't know a particles position and momentum simultaneously is that some lazy ass programmer took a shortcut.Kaleberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05283840743310507878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-87165175250264532322015-01-15T03:22:57.224-05:002015-01-15T03:22:57.224-05:00The purpose of science should not be the simulatio...The purpose of science should not be the simulation of artificial intelligence in a series of scientists who cannot go deeper than the informational map that over time replaces the territory<br />L. Edgar Ottohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525169618204198073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-71583401306745884292015-01-14T18:04:10.928-05:002015-01-14T18:04:10.928-05:00You write "I do not see anything fundamental ...You write "I do not see anything fundamental that stands in way of such creation. Let it be a thousand years or ten thousand years, eventually we’ll get there."<br /><br />Though I liked your following arguments, I disagree with the first because I do see something fundamental that blocks our way toward simulating a conscious mind.<br /><br />A conscious mind at the level of that of Meir Amiramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09514567952262315137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-53869623508172401182015-01-14T15:20:08.248-05:002015-01-14T15:20:08.248-05:00It's not necessarily true that the Virtual Rea...It's not necessarily true that the Virtual Reality Hypothesis posits some external creator; this is the old argument between the Buddhists and the Hindus, the Hindu posit some absolute creator, Brahman, while the Buddha said there is no such thing that it is all "self-generating," the ultimate nature of all existence is emptiness.<br /><br />That said, I think this subject merits PonderSeekDiscoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00913503952284529871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-6588793181391543822015-01-14T10:54:26.424-05:002015-01-14T10:54:26.424-05:00Eric:
The main point of my post was to question t...Eric:<br /><br />The main point of my post was to question that the simulation hypothesis is as unscientific as you seem to believe it is. You seem to have missed that point. I agree with you that there are currently other, more interesting questions that physicists should work on, in fact do work on. I find it disingenuous that you apparently simply criticize me for sometimes thinking about Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-91884158670885292172015-01-14T10:25:12.110-05:002015-01-14T10:25:12.110-05:00Eric, if you are the same Eric whose comments I ha...Eric, if you are the same Eric whose comments I have seen at other websites, I usually understand and respect what you write, but not in this case.<br /><br />I will take you at your word that you are not confused and understand that Dr. Hossenfelder was not advocating for the simulation hypothesis but rather responding to it skeptically after explaining it. You yourself (if you are who I think JimVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10198704789965278981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-27549675284752030912015-01-14T06:28:34.963-05:002015-01-14T06:28:34.963-05:00Nice pondering. Having read the posting, I wanted ...Nice pondering. Having read the posting, I wanted to comment, but I noticed my thought was expressed at comment #3 by P.Helbig. So much about it.<br /><br />Sometimes I have pondered, that there is the Heisenberg´s uncertainty principle, why is there such a physical law, or phenomenon? Is that the level of detail where the simulation´s computing power ends, and they just put a random number AuvoThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06532983892966186458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-31029081432028762572015-01-13T09:04:19.478-05:002015-01-13T09:04:19.478-05:00Furthermore, if we are in such circumstances then ...Furthermore, if we are in such circumstances then it's possible there is a way to find out - I already gave a rather macabre example as far as biologically-based simulations go. Suppose we did certain experiments and found some inadequacies compared to what we are confident a "real world" could provide? Then we might have to conclude that we are in a simulation. The very possibilityNeil Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04564859009749481136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-87629872888613128192015-01-13T09:00:42.303-05:002015-01-13T09:00:42.303-05:00Eric, you say: "Adding an additional layer of...Eric, you say: "Adding an additional layer of abstraction like a computer simulation on top of the known laws of physics, incomplete as they are, just does not make sense to me." - but no one is adding layers just out of fun or relative to the existing laws per se. The point is, it is <i>possible</i> that is what is happening to us. (Yes, bringing up the possibility, not the assertion Neil Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04564859009749481136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-64476302104591516282015-01-13T07:45:05.734-05:002015-01-13T07:45:05.734-05:00According to Thomas Campbell we are living in a vi...According to <a href="http://www.matrixwissen.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=639:delayed-choice-quantum-eraser-experiment-en&catid=125&Itemid=105&lang=en" rel="nofollow">Thomas Campbell</a> we are living in a virtual reality and that reality as we know it is based on information and created from this information as any other virtual reality simulation on a Zephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-75113607483697421132015-01-13T07:17:10.177-05:002015-01-13T07:17:10.177-05:00Alice
Why do you spend so much time drawing lin...Alice<br /> Why do you spend so much time drawing lines and circles Winthrop sand? There's fields to be plowed and seeds to plant.<br /><br />Bob<br /> I am counting all the grains if sand as if we could fill the globe to the furtherest stars.<br /><br />Alice<br /> So you want your helpmate to do most of the work? How unfair. You bit the apple too that sent us to this Forbidden Planet.L. Edgar Ottohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525169618204198073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-7629919643979644892015-01-13T04:54:15.258-05:002015-01-13T04:54:15.258-05:00Thank you for your reply Sabine. I didn't unde...Thank you for your reply Sabine. I didn't understand the general sense of the term "computer". Now it is much cearer the meaning of this post to me.<br />Thanks again. Marconemohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07365330980872106443noreply@blogger.com