tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post6520186024864184842..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Swedish Research Council requires Open AccessSabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-85364974778258815302009-11-26T08:31:39.364-05:002009-11-26T08:31:39.364-05:00Good post! I read I am a college sophomore with a ...Good post! I read I am a college sophomore with a dual major in Physics and Mathematics @ University of Canterbury in Christchurch, New Zealand. Open concept increases greater access to archival documents. By the way, i came across these excellent <a href="http://www.funnelbrain.com/searchResults.php?searchTxt=physics&decks=true" rel="dofollow" rel="nofollow">physics flash cards</a>. Its alsoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-36368489531161316772009-11-24T13:10:41.622-05:002009-11-24T13:10:41.622-05:00Great move by Swedish Research Council, I hope man...Great move by Swedish Research Council, I hope many more institutions will follow this path.<br /><br />I'm all for open access to science, especially if it's funded by public money.Arrownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-38841042767666235872009-11-23T14:29:58.312-05:002009-11-23T14:29:58.312-05:00Hi Phil,
Sorry I have been preoccupied.
Free for...Hi Phil,<br /><br />Sorry I have been preoccupied.<br /><br /><a href="http://eskesthai.blogspot.com/2008/01/free-for-all-dream-come-true.html" title="Wednesday, January 09, 2008" rel="nofollow">Free for all: Dream Come True </a><br /><br />They are specific areas to which research is specific and thoughts leading in these general areas, are to serve for "advancing knowledge from a zero PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-73809738307374230732009-11-23T12:42:02.099-05:002009-11-23T12:42:02.099-05:00Hi, Bee,
Well, if social networking just makes se...Hi, Bee,<br /><br />Well, if social networking just makes selection bias worse (and it's there with the current system, and this I know for a fact), then obviously I must reevaluate my position. I've little experience with a preprint archive paradigm to compare to, so I readily admit I could be wrong. Some in the physics community seem to think that the arXiv is enough, and reportedly Low Math, Meekly Interactingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-46875654350712954022009-11-23T02:49:44.802-05:002009-11-23T02:49:44.802-05:00Hi Low Math,
You're neglecting the selective ...Hi Low Math,<br /><br />You're neglecting the selective function journals play. You can see it in other areas that once information is easily available the relevant question is no longer how to get it, but how to filter it. There are other ways than journals (=editors, peer review) to do that, but they have for all I can see even more disadvantages. One filter for example that seems to becomeSabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-100319920688379022009-11-23T00:25:09.139-05:002009-11-23T00:25:09.139-05:00Peter Morgan wrote:
"What about information ...Peter Morgan wrote:<br /><br />"What about information that has not in the past been published?"<br /><br />Regarding paid journal subscriptions etc, I don't subscribe to any of them. http://arXiv.org is great however not all papers make it there. In case some of you aren't aware there's http://viXra.org where anyone can submit a paper, this is Open Access. As for crackpot Paul Titzehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18289833231312747076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-17362765135173439492009-11-22T20:55:20.114-05:002009-11-22T20:55:20.114-05:00Well, in principle peer review provides robust QC,...Well, in principle peer review provides robust QC, but in practice, having only three or so reviewers view any given paper appears to be quite contentious, subjective, error-prone, even perilous if a particular reviewer decides to sit on your manuscript while his or her post-doc hustles their competing work out the door.<br /><br />So why not just put it out there for the world to see? Desktop Low Math, Meekly Interactingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-87420534238302764992009-11-22T16:57:19.545-05:002009-11-22T16:57:19.545-05:00Peer review is useful for identifying potential pr...Peer review is useful for identifying potential problems and mistakes in a paper, but that work is done for free by reviewers ... the journal basically provides the admin and typesetting services, and editorial control. They also provide printing, distribution and reprint services.<br /><br />But distribution is now easier online than on paper, and the last time I considered buying a paper ErkDemon (Eric Baird)https://www.blogger.com/profile/00430413494529535159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-77953220886144335832009-11-22T12:13:08.320-05:002009-11-22T12:13:08.320-05:00In the bio (at least the non-biophysics) field, re...In the bio (at least the non-biophysics) field, relatively little is available for free, though the miniscule percentage changes the more recent the paper.<br /><br />As for journal-sponsored peer review, it's barely a worthwhile filter, as far as I can discern. I spend a fair percentage of my work time trying to replicate and build upon more basic research from academia. I'll be as Low Math, Meekly Interactingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-91834786882877134112009-11-22T07:37:21.895-05:002009-11-22T07:37:21.895-05:00Should have added, I presently have no SRC grants ...Should have added, I presently have no SRC grants anyway.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-44676526199467379732009-11-22T07:36:20.556-05:002009-11-22T07:36:20.556-05:00No. I think it doesn't affect high energy phys...No. I think it doesn't affect high energy physics generally, since pretty much all articles are publicly available on the arXiv anyhow. It is more of relevance for fields where open access is still uncommon or the available journals are scarcely used.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-26767815256649445952009-11-22T07:32:43.329-05:002009-11-22T07:32:43.329-05:00And how this affects you Bee? I mean this practice...And how this affects you Bee? I mean this practice poses obstacles to your work?Giotisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-89121355820827970362009-11-21T23:24:33.582-05:002009-11-21T23:24:33.582-05:00Hi Plato,
The primary problem with open access is...Hi Plato,<br /><br />The primary problem with open access is not only found in the maintenance of the peer review system yet also in its publishing, distribution and maintainance. It appears that the SCOAP 3 model addresses many of the central issues. None the less as we know nothing comes for free and as suc h even if the cost be only a nominal one I would like to see those it benefits Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-10063572559082442912009-11-21T15:46:04.560-05:002009-11-21T15:46:04.560-05:00Hi Bee,
You do not want a limit to finite imagina...Hi Bee,<br /><br />You do not want a limit to <a href="http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2007/02/principle-of-finite-imagination-ii.html" rel="nofollow">finite imagination</a> do you?<br /><br /> <i>What about the second task, achieving cultural change? As any revolutionary can attest, that is a tall order. Let me describe two strategies that have been successful in the past, and that offer a PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-78141871693471934382009-11-21T15:33:39.839-05:002009-11-21T15:33:39.839-05:00Private property and capitalism still outperforms ...Private property and capitalism still outperforms communism and FreeSW model, despite of what various fanatists are saying ((<a href="http://blog.laptopmag.com/ubuntu-confirms-linux-netbook-returns-higher-than-anticpated" rel="nofollow">1</a>, <a href="http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/laptops/buyers-give-thumbs-down-to-linux-netbooks-484642" rel="nofollow">2</a>, <a href="http://Zephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-78713276210701681632009-11-21T11:46:38.305-05:002009-11-21T11:46:38.305-05:00A publisher's offered value in a publication i...A publisher's offered value in a publication is peer review, inventory, timeliness. Only peer review survives arXiv. What product price and exclusivity does peer review justify?<br /><br />Paper editions are expensive, ended by electronic storage and access. A Wincrap Word dot file or Latex template renders anybody a full quality publisher.<br /><br />The physical empire of publication canUncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-914356102528036452009-11-21T10:43:43.300-05:002009-11-21T10:43:43.300-05:00This seems to require no more than that projects m...This seems to require no more than that projects must put in a line item in their budgets for paying for open access. It puts only the smallest of impositions on publishers, that they must provide a prepaid Open Access option if they wish Swedish Research Council funded researchers to submit articles to them. It seems as if all major journals are now including this option, so it's not clear Peter Morganhttp://pantheon.yale.edu/~pwm22/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-11425913125588024642009-11-21T10:07:03.376-05:002009-11-21T10:07:03.376-05:00Ah, that's interesting news.
BTW, I am not s...Ah, that's interesting news. <br /><br />BTW, I am not sure if you have seen it, here in Germany there is currently an <a href="https://epetitionen.bundestag.de/index.php?action=petition;sa=details;petition=7922" rel="nofollow">online petition to the Bundestag</a> going on, which is asking for a similar legislation. The petition was launched by a science blogger and journalist, <a href="http:stefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09495628046446378453noreply@blogger.com