tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post3257362155267135111..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: And how open would you want your science?Sabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-43964900184601277322009-08-06T05:31:17.659-04:002009-08-06T05:31:17.659-04:00Hi Arun.
Thanks for the reference, although I sho...Hi Arun.<br /><br />Thanks for the reference, although I should be somewhat ashamed since I have the book it can be found in, being Ideas and Opinions. However, in that book this lecture is entitled “Principles of Research” rather than “Principles of Theoretical Physics”, which your source gives it as. Actually there is one also in the same book only a few pages back from this one bearing that Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-77498651257792380702009-08-05T11:42:52.007-04:002009-08-05T11:42:52.007-04:00Phil:
http://www.e-scoala.ro/biblioteca/albert_ei...Phil:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.e-scoala.ro/biblioteca/albert_einstein2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.e-scoala.ro/biblioteca/albert_einstein2.html</a><br /><br />I have a feeling Einstein elaborated on this theme elsewhere.<br /><br />-ArunArunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-69821221107709356752009-08-05T09:21:16.043-04:002009-08-05T09:21:16.043-04:00No doubt, overly egalitarian environment is demoti...No doubt, overly egalitarian environment is demotivating, as we know from history of socialism...<br /><br />http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327195.600-cosy-social-networks-are-stifling-innovation.htmlZephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-4748400706125278962009-08-05T07:44:54.503-04:002009-08-05T07:44:54.503-04:00Hi Bee,
It’s interesting that you would call sci...Hi Bee,<br /><br /><br />It’s interesting that you would call science “self organizing”, rather than democratic, as it plays into how I was comparing it to evolution, yet one with differing methodology and goals. The goal of evolution is to assure continuance through the use of constant charge arbitrated by survival, while the goal of science, through the use of reason, arbitrated by experiment Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-78228848912982912052009-08-05T05:44:01.700-04:002009-08-05T05:44:01.700-04:00Hi Arun,
This latest quote of Einstein you left y...Hi Arun,<br /><br />This latest quote of Einstein you left you didn’t mark a source. I be curious to know what that might be since as you know such things interest me.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />PhilPhil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-74997419063657935042009-08-04T12:17:52.078-04:002009-08-04T12:17:52.078-04:00Hi Giotis,
I strongly doubt 1) and 3). You find t...Hi Giotis,<br /><br />I strongly doubt 1) and 3). You find these qualifications in many other jobs as well. 2) sounds nice, but I think a lot of people just enter science because they are interested in it. Frankly, who would say he's not interested in discovering the truth about anything? 4) Isn't specific for science. <br /><br />I tend to agree on 5), 6) and 7), though I have no Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-40331030998526190632009-08-04T12:07:31.319-04:002009-08-04T12:07:31.319-04:00Hi Phil,
It is of course no coincidence these poi...Hi Phil,<br /><br />It is of course no coincidence these points overlap with similar ideas in other parts of our lives. Such cross-pollination happens frequently, take eg the idea of the "landscape" which has traveled from biology to physics to politics. This can cause problems however since the use of ideas in other parts of our lives usually requires some adaption. Politics is not Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-78905913983807888282009-08-03T15:45:22.920-04:002009-08-03T15:45:22.920-04:00Stefan about that story you told.
These things h...Stefan about that story you told. <br /><br />These things happen. That's life. People communicate and interact with each other and this interaction always has consequences. How it could be otherwise?<br /><br />Anyway this reminds me an old joke.<br /><br />Someone asks a guy what kind of books does he read; and the guy replies:<br /><br />"I don't read. I don't want to get Giotisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-34299777299164264712009-08-03T08:37:21.966-04:002009-08-03T08:37:21.966-04:00Hi Pope,
Yes, he talked about this on our last ye...Hi Pope,<br /><br />Yes, he talked about this on our <a href="http://www.science21stcentury.org/" rel="nofollow">last year's conference</a>. <a href="http://pirsa.org/07090080/" rel="nofollow">Video and audio here</a>. Best,<br /><br />B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-9082114186425554022009-08-03T08:20:40.904-04:002009-08-03T08:20:40.904-04:00Hi Phil,
Your lead enabled me to find this - it is...Hi Phil,<br />Your lead enabled me to find this - it is part of a larger passage that now I must find:<br /><br />"“In the temple of science are many mansions, and various indeed are they that dwell therein and the motives that have led them hither. Many take to science out of a joyful sense of superior intellectual power; science is their own special sport to which they look for vivid Arunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-27548639275175091382009-08-03T06:35:51.190-04:002009-08-03T06:35:51.190-04:00Hi Bee,
In SR clocks play the role of time, but w...Hi Bee,<br /><br />In SR clocks play the role of time, but what does spacetime plays for a role in GR. I have found aninteresting article by Carlo Rovelli:<br /><br />http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9903045<br /><br />about the problem of quantizing spacetime. He talks there about spacetime in GR.<br /><br />Greetings <br /><br />Kay zum FeldeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-27517742626011783972009-08-03T06:12:11.407-04:002009-08-03T06:12:11.407-04:00Hi Bee,
it is interesting what you write, when I ...Hi Bee,<br /><br />it is interesting what you write, when I think of what I thought about Einstein's General Theory of Relativity or even Special Relativity at my first reading of his original articles. Today I've made some progress. I still have problems about the understanding what spacetime really is and what time f.e. plays for a role in SR and GR. <br /><br />What do I want to say ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-27034471893103073102009-08-03T05:19:55.620-04:002009-08-03T05:19:55.620-04:00In connection with this issue I note that today...In connection with this issue I note that today's arXiv has an article by Paul Ginsparg about the importance of arranging things so that your paper is at the top of the daily listings. An amazing number of people do this, or try to do it, with varying levels of success of course. And now this childish game is out in the open, as required by "open science". Frankly I would have Pope Maledict XVInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-38399421952869962902009-08-02T20:45:29.398-04:002009-08-02T20:45:29.398-04:00Hi Arun,
As you are aware my greatest compliant i...Hi Arun,<br /><br />As you are aware my greatest compliant in regards to the open access of information is that currently it doesn’t exist and I’m wondering if it ever truly will. It’s not that the powers that be have to worry that they will be faced with a better informed public as a result, since the general utility of the internet found by most has little or nothing to do with this. Perhaps Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-27757817684412993942009-08-02T20:11:05.220-04:002009-08-02T20:11:05.220-04:00The censorship and pathological skepticism is inde...The censorship and pathological skepticism is indeed the main problem of contemporary science. Maybe even worse, the in the times of Galileo. Nothing has changed from medieval times here.Zephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-39384956985863474212009-08-02T19:36:59.175-04:002009-08-02T19:36:59.175-04:00Oh, I see only now that this is the example Geri ...Oh, I see only now that this is the example Geri was alluding to... funny coincidence!stefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09495628046446378453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-43897145884565437182009-08-02T19:14:09.102-04:002009-08-02T19:14:09.102-04:00Concerning "killing new ideas" old style...Concerning "killing new ideas" old style, I came today across the story of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Kronig" rel="nofollow">Ralph Kronig</a>, who as a graduate student in 1925 had the idea of electron spin. He discussed it with Pauli, who thought it was nonsense, and hence, Kronig did not publish. <br /><br />Essentially the same idea was then published by Uhlenbeck stefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09495628046446378453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-54222173706937852942009-08-02T19:11:12.762-04:002009-08-02T19:11:12.762-04:00Hi Zephir,
Well I guess this impeccable source of...Hi Zephir,<br /><br />Well I guess this impeccable source of unquestionable relevance has slammed the lid down tight on this one;-)<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />PhilPhil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-21559758053035950212009-08-02T18:18:51.335-04:002009-08-02T18:18:51.335-04:00/*Plus private donations which especially in North.../*Plus private donations which especially in North America weigh in heavily.../<br />due the liberal tax-compensation policy.Zephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-19911155911924607712009-08-02T18:08:17.596-04:002009-08-02T18:08:17.596-04:00My guess for the second set would be the pragmatis...My guess for the second set would be the pragmatists. The it's-what-I-know-it's-what-I-do-for-a-living people. You don't find them so often in foundational research though.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-44320442139821323002009-08-02T18:02:55.358-04:002009-08-02T18:02:55.358-04:00Hi Phil,
It looked interesting. If there was more ...Hi Phil,<br />It looked interesting. If there was more openness in science, then I wouldn't have to purchase the article to read it, and then I would have read it :) <br /><br />Anyway, the quote I'm really looking for mentions three types of scientists, one set looking to show how bright they are, the second set forget what, and the third set really selfless worshippers at the altar of Arunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-38688152806274960892009-08-02T18:02:14.667-04:002009-08-02T18:02:14.667-04:00/*..an interesting opinion, is it another of your .../*..an interesting opinion, is it another of your own..*/<br />I can ask you for the same thing in symmetrical way, don't you think? <br /><br />Anyway, I'm always <a href="http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:mzptNhOa6u4J:library.thinkquest.org/C005358/newton.htm+Newton+critique+publish&cd=2&hl=cs&ct=clnk&gl=cz" rel="nofollow">doing a review</a>, before suggesting some Zephirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06010623752049244967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-70435000910835380842009-08-02T10:26:24.200-04:002009-08-02T10:26:24.200-04:00Hi Arun,
This quote you cite, sounds like someone...Hi Arun,<br /><br />This quote you cite, sounds like someone attempting to fit something into a box for which no one has been able to confirm its edges :-)<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />PhilPhil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-27240463438406289132009-08-02T09:29:23.268-04:002009-08-02T09:29:23.268-04:00While think-oogling about this blog post, I came a...While think-oogling about this blog post, I came across <a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TCV-4W1R9S2-1&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=b7835e0a9368fd17ffef7629e06520ed" rel="nofollow">this</a><br /><br />Assume he is correctArunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-33004940858702997512009-08-02T09:16:36.046-04:002009-08-02T09:16:36.046-04:00Zephir: While science is payed from mandatory fee...Zephir: <i>While science is payed from mandatory fees and taxes...</i><br /><br />Plus private donations which especially in North America weigh in heavily.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.com