tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post2825701284340035190..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Scientific IntegritySabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-86073366817078500322008-02-18T20:06:00.000-05:002008-02-18T20:06:00.000-05:00There was just a report on NBC news tonight, about...There was just a report on NBC news tonight, about Bush in Africa - and how he has funded AIDS drugs, but offers abstinence-based education. An aid worker said, "He doesn't like us giving out condoms." That is literally (if unintentionally) murderous.Neil Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04564859009749481136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-13359773742012713002008-02-16T19:15:00.000-05:002008-02-16T19:15:00.000-05:00Hi Changcho:I don't know enough about US history (...Hi Changcho:<BR/><BR/>I don't know enough about US history (neither the recent nor the not-so-recent one) to judge whether this is true or not. But even considered this was true, this would not mean it is a consequence of a politic direction. Instead, it could very well be an underlying time-dependent sociological trend that reflects in the government. I generally have a problem with the Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-55138529758158208802008-02-16T17:21:00.000-05:002008-02-16T17:21:00.000-05:00"The left historically has also had lapses"...This..."The left historically has also had lapses"...<BR/><BR/>This is certainly true as well; however, let us put things in perspective. It is clear that the political interference of the current administration on science is orders of magnitudes worse than anything in recent US history. They've elevated this to an art (and I don't mean that kindly).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-71249123777376965732008-02-16T11:13:00.000-05:002008-02-16T11:13:00.000-05:00Hi All,Neil: I can understand Bee being diplomatic...Hi All,<BR/><BR/><I>Neil: I can understand Bee being diplomatic about who is most responsible for interfering in science, but as changcho said, it is mostly from the Right.</I><BR/><BR/>It's not diplomacy it's just not my opinion. To begin with I can't make sense out of referring to a party in the political spectrum as 'left' and 'right' in any other means than the actual seating order in the Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-19103947063740949482008-02-16T03:42:00.000-05:002008-02-16T03:42:00.000-05:00Hi All,I’ll have to side with Anonymous here for s...Hi All,<BR/><BR/>I’ll have to side with Anonymous here for science is always being pulled one way and another and often times both at once. This of course is assuming that in itself is apolitical. However can it be especially since this is where the funding comes from? No, I’m afraid it’s all given away in the first line of their plea which follows:<BR/><BR/>“Scientific knowledge and its Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-2485399306112294532008-02-15T21:43:00.000-05:002008-02-15T21:43:00.000-05:00Certainly the right in the US has much to blame fo...Certainly the right in the US has much to blame for. Stem cell research, creationism pseudoscience, some of the anti global warming bs (though the other extreme is also ridiculous), and lapse of judgements with respect to budget priorities like manned missions to Mars, etc<BR/><BR/>The left historically has also had lapses, for instance in the anti nuclear hysteria, anti genetic modification of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-46959584481381782852008-02-15T21:18:00.000-05:002008-02-15T21:18:00.000-05:00I can understand Bee being diplomatic about who is...I can understand Bee being diplomatic about who is most responsible for interfering in science, but as changcho said, it is mostly from the Right. A good book on all that is <I>The Republican War on Science</I> by Chris Mooney.Neil Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04564859009749481136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-25733425590899598922008-02-15T16:25:00.000-05:002008-02-15T16:25:00.000-05:00Hi Michael,I won't be surprised. I don't think thi...Hi Michael,<BR/><BR/>I won't be surprised. I don't think this is going to change much. Even if they should manage to pass some bills.<BR/><BR/>Hi Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>I admit on not having read the whole thing. I read the improvements they propose, and they sound reasonable to me, no matter what their exact opinion on frog extinction is or something. <BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-50659447143325328272008-02-15T16:06:00.000-05:002008-02-15T16:06:00.000-05:00People should read more carefully into exactly wha...People should read more carefully into exactly what this organization actually says, rather than what they claim to represent.<BR/><BR/>They have a number of ridiculous statements about nuclear power and genetic food, and it reads more like something from greenpeace, than what you would find in an academic setting.<BR/><BR/>They seem more akin to a political hack group pretending to represent Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-36203097143827758642008-02-15T15:53:00.000-05:002008-02-15T15:53:00.000-05:00The problems are the American public is so badly e...The problems are the American public is so badly educated its doesn't understand what has gone on. <BR/><BR/>Also, whats been done once will most like be done again.So don't be surprised if the next president interferes also.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-49655964702325674532008-02-15T15:38:00.000-05:002008-02-15T15:38:00.000-05:00In the stalinist Soviet Union there was Trofim Lys...In the stalinist Soviet Union there was Trofim Lysenko (I'm sure there were many others, but his name is the one that stands out) politically interfering in science (genetics specifically) to make it more in line with 'dialectical materialism'.<BR/><BR/>In the Bush II years we had flagrant political interference with science to make it more in line with right-wing ideology.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com