tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post1815440354487877778..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: It's a man's world...Sabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-25051675543978873912008-11-19T17:08:00.000-05:002008-11-19T17:08:00.000-05:00It sucks being a statistical outlier, doesn't it?I...It sucks being a statistical outlier, doesn't it?<BR/><BR/>I wonder what you would conclude if you looked at the data through the other end of the telescope?<BR/><BR/>I.e., if you tallied the sex of the people who <I>read</I> your blog, would it come out closer to your score?<BR/><BR/>I remember reading once, that the audience of Discover/Scientific American and other science magazines is mostly Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-30362746641724678332008-11-17T23:11:00.000-05:002008-11-17T23:11:00.000-05:00Hi Arun,This turns out to be an interesting site i...Hi Arun,<BR/><BR/>This turns out to be an interesting site in other respects. In poking around I found out it also had a <A HREF="http://www.uclassify.com/Browse.aspx" REL="nofollow">writing style analyzer<BR/></A> and took the liberty to plug BackReaction into it to produce the following:<BR/><BR/>1. Jules Verne (36.5 %)<BR/>2. HG Wells (36.4 %)<BR/>3. Edgar Allen Poe (6.4 %)<BR/>4. Friedrich Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-79640303103808261752008-11-17T15:00:00.000-05:002008-11-17T15:00:00.000-05:00My female friend's blog (largely on music) turned ...My female friend's blog (largely on music) turned out as being 80% male, while mine (I'm male and blog on music, philosophy, technology, science and other subjects) turned out 98% male. We just laughed it off after trying a few URLs. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-10816482246515669642008-11-17T13:33:00.000-05:002008-11-17T13:33:00.000-05:00BTW, as many have noted the analyzing program does...BTW, as many have noted the analyzing program doesn't really look into "meaning" and attitude-type markers. (Well I don't have enough "too much time on my hands" to really read about how it works, I just assume, not basics, and follow from others.) Hence Bee's interest in social justice and World cooperation (got that right?) does not overcome the apparent "maleness" of her simplistically analyzeNeil Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04564859009749481136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-1410159764146213282008-11-17T13:29:00.000-05:002008-11-17T13:29:00.000-05:00Well, considering Lumo's right-wing, skeptical, pe...Well, considering Lumo's right-wing, skeptical, perhaps sexist (you know, Bee!) and aggressively one-upping sense of competition, I am not surprised at this result:<BR/><BR/><I>We have strong indicators that http://motls.blogspot.com/ is written by a man (92%).</I>Neil Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04564859009749481136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-15253427214914217442008-11-17T00:03:00.000-05:002008-11-17T00:03:00.000-05:00The root is here:http://blog.uclassify.com/gender-...The root is here:<BR/><A HREF="http://blog.uclassify.com/gender-text-analysis/" REL="nofollow">http://blog.uclassify.com/gender-text-analysis/</A><BR/><BR/>Another post there says that when their servers were unable to keep up with demand is when the results went down for the gender classification.Arunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-69756893839443877682008-11-16T13:55:00.000-05:002008-11-16T13:55:00.000-05:00Dr. Who:"Making Time With Pretty Girls and Hot Sto...<B>Dr. Who</B>:<I>"Making Time With Pretty Girls and Hot Stoves by Don Limuti "</I><BR/><BR/>I thought I might try to enter, and found it only for scientists.<BR/><BR/>As subjective as this may sound some do believe Einstein's view does "carry weight?":) If you know what I mean, and not entirely on a pretty girl scale.<BR/><BR/>Never tried my own blog site, but decided not too. It seems it's not PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-6757721952665442052008-11-16T12:58:00.000-05:002008-11-16T12:58:00.000-05:00Fun exercise! It would be interesting to know how ...Fun exercise! <BR/><BR/>It would be interesting to know how many different people they had trained the software on. And what sort of occupational distribution they had. For example Bee/Christine's statement about more 'scientific' words being interpreted as being written by a male, just imagine how the program would respond, if the training sets included only women scientists and male artists!<BRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-62520651150166703682008-11-16T10:38:00.000-05:002008-11-16T10:38:00.000-05:00Hi Bee,Just as a Postscript:As I've calculated the...Hi Bee,<BR/><BR/>Just as a Postscript:<BR/><BR/>As I've calculated the mean between your site and Stefan's is 73% male. With BackReaction scoring 74% that would be well within an accepted deviation :-)<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>PhilPhil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-65739012823367928702008-11-16T10:16:00.000-05:002008-11-16T10:16:00.000-05:00Hi Bee,"We have strong indicators that Stefan's ho...Hi Bee,<BR/><BR/>"We have strong indicators that Stefan's homepage is written by a man (100%)."<BR/><BR/>Well in terms of mate selection your own analysis was spot on:-) I wonder if this would rank higher then some sports blogs? :-) I'm going to have to ask Stefan to give me pointers as how to improve my ranking.<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>PhilPhil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-31789299415997348512008-11-16T10:07:00.000-05:002008-11-16T10:07:00.000-05:00*lol*"We have strong indicators that Stefan's home...*lol*<BR/><BR/>"We have strong indicators that <A HREF="http://th.physik.uni-frankfurt.de/~scherer/" REL="nofollow">Stefan's homepage</A> is written by a man (100%)."<BR/><BR/>Now you know what to do: Black background, unmotivated boxes hanging on the front page, no introductions to anything, use words like 'ultra-relativistic' and 'dynamical clustering'.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-35698769203263420272008-11-16T10:01:00.000-05:002008-11-16T10:01:00.000-05:00Hi Stefan,“I don't think that I contribute enough ...Hi Stefan,<BR/><BR/>“I don't think that I contribute enough to significantly influence the result ;-)”<BR/><BR/>You’re far too modest. Come to think of it I’ve never seen your own home page listed.<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>PhilPhil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-59215827321462160612008-11-16T09:57:00.000-05:002008-11-16T09:57:00.000-05:00Dear Arun,It would be interesting to know whether ...Dear Arun,<BR/><BR/>It would be interesting to know whether the poll-result is used for the algorithm's learning curve, and if so, how. Best,<BR/><BR/>B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-64962472334047924382008-11-16T09:55:00.001-05:002008-11-16T09:55:00.001-05:00Hi Bee,"We think http://www.lightconeinstitute.org...Hi Bee,<BR/><BR/>"We think http://www.lightconeinstitute.org/ is written by a woman (61%)."<BR/><BR/>So much for artificial intelligence :-)<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>PhilPhil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-85155275167655625582008-11-16T09:55:00.000-05:002008-11-16T09:55:00.000-05:00Hi Phil,It would be interesting to learn what the ...Hi Phil,<BR/><BR/><I>It would be interesting to learn what the result would be if Stefan’s contributions were omitted from the analysis?</I><BR/><BR/>I don't think that I contribute enough to significantly influence the result ;-)<BR/><BR/>Cheers, Stefanstefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09495628046446378453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-10956665186792678792008-11-16T09:54:00.000-05:002008-11-16T09:54:00.000-05:00Hi Sologen,Which would mean that 'text classificat...Hi Sologen,<BR/><BR/>Which would mean that 'text classification' amounts to merely word count. Meaning what they actually test is which gender is likely to write about what topic. As far as I am concerned I would have thought the first thing to look for is whether the blog owner maybe has a name! Or maybe just stated his/her gender. Multiplied with probability that people lie on these issues (Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-3051185693518804722008-11-16T09:50:00.000-05:002008-11-16T09:50:00.000-05:00Well, if you take my homepage as an indicator:"We ...Well, if you take my homepage as an indicator:<BR/><BR/>"We guess http://www.prime-spot.de/ is written by a woman (52%), however it's quite gender neutral."<BR/><BR/>And for reasons that are somewhat a mystery to me<BR/><BR/>"We think http://www.lightconeinstitute.org/ is written by a woman (61%)."Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-38801665906022447062008-11-16T09:47:00.000-05:002008-11-16T09:47:00.000-05:00Hi Bee,It would be interesting to learn what the r...Hi Bee,<BR/><BR/>It would be interesting to learn what the result would be if Stefan’s contributions were omitted from the analysis?<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>PhilPhil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-51714650667947956392008-11-16T09:23:00.000-05:002008-11-16T09:23:00.000-05:00Hi Rae Ann,“It's not just science blogs. My result...Hi Rae Ann,<BR/><BR/>“It's not just science blogs. My result: "We think http://viciousmomma.blogspot.com is written by a man (86%)."<BR/><BR/>Well except being outdone by the FemaleScienceProfessor I seem to be less male then the rest on this list including your own with them reporting:<BR/><BR/>“We think <A HREF="http://decartes-einstein.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">What is Einstein's Moon?</A>Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-81170056716682777462008-11-16T08:18:00.000-05:002008-11-16T08:18:00.000-05:00Christine said: “Evidently, the analyzer needs... ...Christine said: “Evidently, the analyzer needs... calibration. But, for the record, maybe it would be safe to declare that I am a woman, married to a man, having with him one children. :)” Too little to prove you're a true woman :). For that you'd need to produce two and a fraction of them :).<BR/><BR/>But the analyzer does <I>not</I> pretend to determine your <I>physical</I> sex (children, etc.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-69926524976273062742008-11-16T08:05:00.000-05:002008-11-16T08:05:00.000-05:00It's not just science blogs. My result: "We thin...It's not just science blogs. My result: <BR/><BR/>"We think http://viciousmomma.blogspot.com is written by a man (86%)."<BR/><BR/>Funny that they find me more manly than many of male scientists they analyzed. Very weird.Rae Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10239791074376508016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-24144739258169762642008-11-15T21:20:00.000-05:002008-11-15T21:20:00.000-05:00The FQXi competition is a bit of a disaster. We ha...The FQXi competition is a bit of a disaster. We have everything from deadly serious high-powered essays from Claus Kiefer all the way down to<BR/><BR/>"Making Time With Pretty Girls and Hot Stoves by Don Limuti "<BR/><BR/>*Not* the kind of exercise that will persuade people that this subject ought to be taken seriously. <BR/><BR/>Bee, I agree that time is just another dimension. But you could Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-90136238604476992232008-11-15T20:41:00.000-05:002008-11-15T20:41:00.000-05:00Their little poll on the right shows them correct/...Their little poll on the right shows them correct/incorrect 55%/45%. On 8000+ tries. So somewhat better than chance.Arunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03451666670728177970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-21368723660375609262008-11-15T19:00:00.000-05:002008-11-15T19:00:00.000-05:00Hmm. I'm only 61% male, it seems, which is rather...Hmm. I'm only 61% male, it seems, which is rather shattering. I was going to come in here and kick over your furniture and act extravagantly tough and sweary. Now I find that I have to act at least 39% reasonable. Nightmare. And so, whilst I can't exactly raise my knuckles to shake your hand, I'm surely able to say "hello, toptastic blog, greetings from Ireland" and "grunt".<BR/><BR/>Gender Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-68740987420004633962008-11-15T18:01:00.000-05:002008-11-15T18:01:00.000-05:00"I am probably way too conservative for these folk..."I am probably way too conservative for these folks."<BR/><BR/>Bee no! Nowadays radical is mainstream and the conservative approach is revolutionary. So do file your essay, you have many chances of winning this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com