tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post1017796773766683306..comments2023-09-27T07:44:19.769-04:00Comments on Sabine Hossenfelder: Backreaction: Book review: “The Shape of Inner Space” by Yau and NadisSabine Hossenfelderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comBlogger88125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-6803201409895964522011-02-18T08:15:30.910-05:002011-02-18T08:15:30.910-05:00Thank you, Phil, I'll look into it. Click here...Thank you, Phil, I'll look into it. Click <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2011/02/17/133840634/an-eye-opening-look-at-americas-academic-standards?ft=1&f=114424647" rel="nofollow">here </a> to see what we're up against.Steven Colyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10435759210177642257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-14115515961320891762011-02-18T06:53:27.664-05:002011-02-18T06:53:27.664-05:00Hi Steven,
A thought came to mind as a result of ...Hi Steven,<br /><br />A thought came to mind as a result of this side discussion about the general state of education and that was perhaps that you could do something to make an impact in such regard. Now I realize your main focus as of late is along the lines of you yourself making some meaningful contribution to physics or math, yet with all things considered wouldn’t you think that enhancing Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-64465497656242772472011-02-17T08:26:42.215-05:002011-02-17T08:26:42.215-05:00Hi Phil,
Thanks for the link to John Mighton'...Hi Phil,<br /><br />Thanks for the link to John Mighton's lecture. I'll take a look opportunely.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />ChristineChristine Cordula Dantashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05271747374185459530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-42524453554599953692011-02-17T06:52:55.584-05:002011-02-17T06:52:55.584-05:00Also see William Thurston
Best,Also see <a href="http://eskesthai.blogspot.com/2008/08/william-thurston.html" title="To a topologist, a rabbit is the same as a sphere. Neither has a hole. Longitude and latitude lines on the rabbit allow mathematicians to map it onto different forms while preserving information." rel="nofollow">William Thurston</a><br /><br />Best,PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-11948956260438022692011-02-17T06:44:08.056-05:002011-02-17T06:44:08.056-05:00Ach! Have to do some re- research:(
Last 8 Esays
...Ach! Have to do some re- research:(<br /><br /><a href="http://www.archive.org/stream/cu31924012063537" rel="nofollow">Last 8 Esays</a><br /><br />Sorry.PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-40397829130073791022011-02-17T06:32:27.977-05:002011-02-17T06:32:27.977-05:00Taken from my entry
The scientist does not stu...Taken from <a href="http://eskesthai.blogspot.com/2008/07/geologist-and-mathematician.html" title="The Geologist and the Mathematician" rel="nofollow">my entry</a><br /><br /> <i>The scientist does not study nature because it is useful. He studies it because he delights in it, and he delights in it because it is beautiful.<b>Jules Henri Poincare (1854-1912)</b></i><br /><br /><br /><br /><b>PlatoHagelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00849253658526056393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-52777266723812608962011-02-17T06:14:14.425-05:002011-02-17T06:14:14.425-05:00Hi Christine,
I thought we might see things simil...Hi Christine,<br /><br />I thought we might see things similarly in such regard as I remember your comments about your experience with your son’s classmates and you noticing how delightfully curious many were. I also remember how you lamented that by the time children reach the latter grades they display a marked decline in their curiosity. What I find interesting is this way of looking at Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-25864738979036060692011-02-17T06:09:59.096-05:002011-02-17T06:09:59.096-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-79172974434012540412011-02-16T09:51:10.437-05:002011-02-16T09:51:10.437-05:00Fastest Declining Academic Fields at 4-year Colleg...<a href="http://chronicle.com/article/Fastest-Declining-Academic/126360/" rel="nofollow">Fastest Declining Academic Fields at 4-year Colleges</a><br /><br />Ain't looking good for Math. Or Germanic languages/literatures.Steven Colyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10435759210177642257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-49503499469189185462011-02-16T08:57:45.179-05:002011-02-16T08:57:45.179-05:00Hi Bee, you wrote:
You forgot formal logic.
Reall...Hi Bee, you wrote:<br /><i>You forgot formal logic.</i><br /><br />Really? But if you did that the powers-that-be would be disappointed your kids don't fall for their programmed sheeple-herding fear-mongering. <br /><br />It's tough to say when formal logic should be taught. Also bear in mind I was speaking of only Math and Science (well, Math). I would include Logic with Science. Both Steven Colyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10435759210177642257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-59498423522366276392011-02-16T08:08:19.074-05:002011-02-16T08:08:19.074-05:00I agree with Phil. I know of a few "experimen...I agree with Phil. I know of a few "experimental" schools that allow children to "choose their interests" and to "learn at their own pace". These schools don't work for most children and are generally a big failure; I know this from colleagues who ended up very unsatisfied with the results. <br /><br />The question is not the "formal" issue. I'm Christine Cordula Dantashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05271747374185459530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-21154595952787806492011-02-16T06:36:43.793-05:002011-02-16T06:36:43.793-05:00Hi Steven & Bee,
I think that’s why it’s refe...Hi Steven & Bee,<br /><br />I think that’s why it’s referred to as a formal education, which I think can’t be avoided as to not have things ending in chaos; that is at least for most. When my kids were growing up they experimented with a more open system and the overall result for that generation turned out to be by in large an abysmal failure. The hall mark of it was to have the teachers Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-39795368125287571932011-02-16T06:27:06.197-05:002011-02-16T06:27:06.197-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Phil Warnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671311338712852659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-18431003177994578952011-02-16T04:20:22.610-05:002011-02-16T04:20:22.610-05:00Hi Steven,
You forgot formal logic. In any case, ...Hi Steven,<br /><br />You forgot formal logic. In any case, the teachers don't make the schedule, I think you know that, so they're not the ones to blame. I frankly think the whole school system with age-separated classes and fixed schedules sucks. I'd prefer a point system where classes are offered on different topics and the kids can put together their schedule as they want and can.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-36538779071727655382011-02-15T10:43:57.994-05:002011-02-15T10:43:57.994-05:00Good point Bee, and if I may continue in this vein...Good point Bee, and if I may continue in this vein because believe it or not, it will be a very, very short time before your girls enter the educational "system", i.e., bureaucracy (spits).<br /><br />Looking back, I liked all of my high school and university teachers in Math and Science, with one exception each. 97% good is good enough sigma for me. ;-p<br /><br />No, the problem I Steven Colyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10435759210177642257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-43904227255384002992011-02-15T09:09:39.146-05:002011-02-15T09:09:39.146-05:00Hi damigiana,
Yes, it's true, one doesn't...Hi damigiana,<br /><br />Yes, it's true, one doesn't learn a lot of math in school. Worse, the little one learns is uninspiring and leaves people wondering what it's good for. It's a shame, really, especially some topology wouldn't be hard to teach. Best,<br /><br />B.Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-25330579190705294812011-02-15T07:21:40.502-05:002011-02-15T07:21:40.502-05:00"figures only get you so far to understanding..."figures only get you so far to understanding six dimensional spaces"<br /><br />My favorite space has dimension minus six. As in, six less than zero. Harder to draw.<br /><br />And many thanks to you, as a physicist, writing such a positive report about a math book. It's hard to write such a book because while high school makes you acquainted with at least the keywords from Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-90020163988101659662011-02-14T10:49:03.453-05:002011-02-14T10:49:03.453-05:00Yes, lol and thanks about the 3-pee story! I have ...Yes, lol and thanks about the 3-pee story! I have a similar one with a sadder ending, maybe. <br /><br />What happened was, when my firstborn was 2 months old I was changing his diaper when my visiting sister and her husband walked it. So I picked our naked pride-and-joy up with one hand on his back and one under his fanny, and our young man chose that very moment of introduction to his kin to Steven Colyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10435759210177642257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-83512240880414400262011-02-14T10:22:28.428-05:002011-02-14T10:22:28.428-05:00Hi Steven,
Stefan is fighting bravely, though Glo...Hi Steven,<br /><br />Stefan is fighting bravely, though Gloria scored recently with peeing 3 times on the changing table before I managed to open a new pack of diapers (that Stefan had stored on the uppermost shelf that, unfortunately, I couldn't reach without help of a chair, the nearest of which was in the kitchen). He's about to qualify for the contest in Sabine Hossenfelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06151209308084588985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-84919437603473110802011-02-14T09:13:14.459-05:002011-02-14T09:13:14.459-05:00I can, and I will, and I thank you Stefan as I'...I can, and I will, and I thank you Stefan as I've said all I have to say on the unpleasant subject and have better things to do than debate Kantians. In any event, your house, your rules, and I for one totally respect that.<br /><br />Btw so good to hear from again Stefan, world's newest daddy. How go the pampers wars? :-)<br /><br />back on topic regarding what is IN the book rather thanSteven Colyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10435759210177642257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-41560570591177906982011-02-14T04:06:33.487-05:002011-02-14T04:06:33.487-05:00Guys,
can you please get back to the topic of the...Guys,<br /><br />can you please get back to the topic of the post? It was about the book and its content.<br /><br />Thanks, Stefanstefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09495628046446378453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-33946769036917860412011-02-14T03:09:46.093-05:002011-02-14T03:09:46.093-05:00I did read the wikipedia article on Manifold Desti...I did read the wikipedia article on Manifold Destiny as you suggested. We must not be reading the same article.<br />The whole thing is still murky and Yao does not come off too well there either, with his students basically being forced to change the title of their paper claiming priority and barely mentioning Perelman. Also Anderson and Strook fail to confirm their supoosed letters or comments GWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16309914321843947595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-20806021195772425562011-02-14T02:53:05.776-05:002011-02-14T02:53:05.776-05:00Steve Colyer: Interesting. Then why are you over p...Steve Colyer: Interesting. Then why are you over posting on Lubos' blog on Feb 11? I suggest reading this before responding. Just a tip:<br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy<br /><br />I am aware of what you posted but do not want to get drawn in so stop now. BTW, string theory has not been proven wrong or not even wrong. In fact, it is the best bet going right now. You know that GWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16309914321843947595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-17301279752510147472011-02-13T22:38:53.963-05:002011-02-13T22:38:53.963-05:00Geez, GW, have you ever actually READ the Wikipedi...Geez, GW, have you ever actually READ the Wikipedia article on the YES slanderous hatchet job that was the article <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifold_destiny" rel="nofollow">Manifold Destiny</a>? I just linked it, so don't believe me, read that and the links and form your own opinion, brah.<br /><br />Also, you're not going to make many friends mentioning good things about Steven Colyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10435759210177642257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22973357.post-6880401639270858452011-02-13T20:16:02.353-05:002011-02-13T20:16:02.353-05:00Perelman refused to accept the Millennium prize in...Perelman refused to accept the Millennium prize in July 2010. He considered the decision of Clay Institute unfair for not sharing the prize with Richard Hamilton,[4] and stated that "the main reason is my disagreement with the organized mathematical community. I don't like their decisions, I consider them unjust."[5] from wikipedia on PerelmanGWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16309914321843947595noreply@blogger.com